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Tuning and cam phaser warranty

Discussion in 'Ford Raptor Engine Discussion and Performance Mods' started by dragoon218, May 29, 2020.

  1. dragoon218

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    If I tune the truck and I get an issue with the cam phasers, will that be something they would still cover? That's really the only thing I am worried about before I tune. I know it will void the warranty. But not sure if this is something they would still cover as its a known issue. Thanks in advance!

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    I doubt it’s covered. You’re essentially pushing the engine beyond its manufactured designed specs for reliability with a tune. Even if the phasers are known issue, there is an argument that you’re increasing its likelihood of failure.
     
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    Depends on how the dealer feels that day
     
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    There is an SSM for the phaser issue. It’s bad part. Ford knows this. They will not deny a bad phaser claim.


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    You're always taking at least a small gamble but the this being such a well known and super common issue I'd be surprised if they tried to deny a phaser claim due to a tune. If my truck was already rattling I wouldn't tune it until it was fixed but I don't think the concern of it happening would keep me from tuning it.
     
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    Guess I can dig into the forums more, but are the phasers a 17 issue? What does it sound like?

    I took delivery of mine Feb 18 as an 18 model and haven’t had the issue, that Im aware of. At idle standing next to front tire I hear what sounds like a rattling wastegate or exhaust tick. But assume normal.
     
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    I suggest you read this thread: https://www.fordraptorforum.com/threads/cam-phaser-engine-failure-reports.64826/

    Your truck is in the affected range to potentially have this issue. The noise only happens at (usually) startup when cold for like, 1-5 seconds.
     
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    Oh just heard a video, yea I dont have that , luckily. Sounds like a diesel at startup. Fingers crossed. Tho I only have 9k on her.
     
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    Since the cam phaser noise concern is a documented issue, there is zero reason for the dealer to suspect that it's a tune induced issue, or to spend their time looking for a tune.

    The only time a tune is generally suspected is when the concern is outside of the norm for a factory failure. This includes things like uncommon/tune indicative DTCs setting, powertrain component failure, factory parameters outside of specification, etc.
     
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    Depends on dealer. I had mine tuned prior to cam phaser replacement. Took out the tune brought it to my dealer they listen to it ordered parts and fixed it no questions asked
     
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