Gen 4 500hp dark horse V8

shigman said:

Ford knows what they are doing. All this 5.0 nonsense is no different than manufactures offering a manual after the outcry of the car only being offered with an auto and then only 5% of sales are a manual. After my experiences at 10K feet, I’d never run a NA truck again.

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Boost is a wonderful drug.

someday said:

A v8 would be more popular than an EB.

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There is a v8 …. Raptor R. The “manual forever” guys are no different. Carry on and then not end up buying that vehicle anyway. I’d buy the ecoboost 7 days a week over a slower, altitude effected, worse MPG vehicle. If i was 16 I would want the v8 for the sound, but Ive grown up. Ive got a vette for when I want the NA v8.

shigman said:

There is a v8 …. Raptor R. The “manual forever” guys are no different. Carry on and then not end up buying that vehicle anyway. I’d buy the ecoboost 7 days a week over a slower, altitude effected, worse MPG vehicle. If i was 16 I would want the v8 for the sound, but Ive grown up. Ive got a vette for when I want the NA v8.

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This.

I had the option to get an R over my 3.5 for my 3rd raptor and I elected the 3.5. The R would be fun at the red lights but that's about it. Can't really use it off road and 700hp is unbearable on the street. I had a F12 and I hated that car around town. There is a huge difference in usable and actual horsepower.

someday said:

A v8 would be more popular than an EB.

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When are you going to come out of the closet? We all know who you are, you’re not fooling anyone aside from yourself.

Yeah the F12 would be irritating AF putting around town behind Nissan rogues and what not. I bet there were some fun late nights on an open road though!!!!

After quite a lot of Colorado and western US miles under my belt using NA engines. When I got my first turbo vehicle (2nd gen raptor) I was blown away how it performs, nearly the same as sea level.

shigman said:

Yeah the F12 would be irritating AF putting around town behind Nissan rogues and what not. I bet there were some fun late nights on an open road though!!!!

After quite a lot of Colorado and western US miles under my belt using NA engines. When I got my first turbo vehicle (2nd gen raptor) I was blown away how it performs, nearly the same as sea level.

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I after about a week, it was relegated to long distance drives from LA to SD and even then, it was annoying at times. It was great for passing but it was about it. The power is either FULL on or lugging. When I sold it and got an AMG GT, it was a lot better. Far more usable around down and for long drives.

When I test drove the R, it was a similar experience, First couple of relights was fun but then it was just lugging around. When I drove the 3.5 (mind you, I just came from a 2023 6.7 tremor) I found it a joy to drive. Fast, nimble and the power was exactly where I wanted it and needed it. Just as I remembered with my 2018 and 2019 Raptors.

Maybe my personal preference but anything about generally 500HP is just a waste around town. Unless it's a purpose built race car, anything over 500 is a very annoying.

FordTechOne said:

You don’t need to attend a “board meeting” to understand that an engine designed for a high RPM car application doesn’t work in a 6,000lb truck, “sally”. Why do you think the 5.0 has different horsepower and torque ratings between the F-150 and Mustang? You’re just making yourself look ridiculous with the baseless speculation.

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I think your knowledge of modern computerized powertrains is rather narrow……but you might have arrived at the correct conclusion, just failing to identify economics as the reason.

MORaptor1 said:

I think your knowledge of modern computerized powertrains is rather narrow……but you might have arrived at the correct conclusion, just failing to identify economics as the reason.

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My knowledge is “narrow” says the guy who thinks an engine tuned for top end power in a Mustang application would be good in a 6,000lb Raptor on 37’s

Economics have nothing to do with it. It’s impractical from every aspect and would be slower and less efficient than a normal Raptor. Regardless of your speculative ramblings, that makes zero sense on any level.

FordTechOne said:

Regardless of your speculative ramblings, that makes zero sense on any level.

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It's not often that I get to dunk on you. So here goes. There is one level where it makes sense. Let's say that you're wanting a little "self gratification". But you need a fantasy in order to "get there". Well, here we are.