Is Cobb TCM worth it?

NHDude4 · Apr 28, 2020

dirtgod said:
Came to Cobb in my Porsche vehicles first. Great and well deserved reputation for them and their products on all the P car forums. Always excellent and safe bang for the buck and very attentive customer service. Have loved it on my Raptor as well.

That's a point that matters a lot to me and less to others. Safe. COBB's solutions seem to be set up to give you more without pushing the mechanical limits of the vehicle and breaking things. I know a custom dyno tune can get you more but I like that the COBB tunes are safe with stock hardware.

Gaptor · Apr 28, 2020

Badgertits said:
SCT BDX 40490

There are other devices you can use different SCT tuners & Gearhead also offers the fancier Ngauge unit too

Yeah I’ll stick with the Cobb option over the budget bin models

Gaptor · Apr 28, 2020

Badgertits said:
SCT BDX 40490

There are other devices you can use different SCT tuners & Gearhead also offers the fancier Ngauge unit too

I’ve had a handful of buddies on different platforms have nothing but issues with them

Badgertits · Apr 28, 2020

Gaptor said:
Yeah I’ll stick with the Cobb option over the budget bin models

You read what said?- you can get gearhead tunes on a number of different devices, including Ngauge which a lot of people prefer over accessport....but You May be able to use a cobb accessport to interface w/ gearhead tunes as well.

I just wanted - tune that allowed me to “set it & forget it” & wanted a conservative tune from a highly reputable company that not only writes tunes for vehicles but builds & abuses em in the real world. also- stock Id automatically put the truck in 4A, TC off, Sport mode every time I got in it. Now I just leave it in normal mode all the time sometimes 4A if wet- but the GH tune is that good & the shifting is so buttery smooth & slick & throttle response much improved that normal “D” is my mode of preference now. Also- GH tunes offer an “auto octane adjust” feature so guess what? I don’t need my “bargain basement” device cuz I didn’t get a “bargain basement” tune- 93 octane unavailable on a road trip? 87 will be fine the GH tune will adjust. Also have a separate map for towing.....

I’m not advocating ardently against Cobb if you’re getting a TCM & ECM tune from them- but previously for few years it was full price ECM only no factual backing up of hp claims or tangible proof of performance enhancement in real world.

personally Id gravitate more toward Livernois, MPT, whipple, Gearhead for a tune on a Raptor.

and quite literally- Cobb selling “custom tunes” w/o touching TCM is the epitome of bargain basement bait & switch

MAMiller44 · Apr 28, 2020

dirtgod said:
Came to Cobb in my Porsche vehicles first. Great and well deserved reputation for them and their products on all the P car forums. Always excellent and safe bang for the buck and very attentive customer service. Have loved it on my Raptor as well.

This is why I was sold on Cobb from the get go on my Raptor. I’ve seen from personal friends how great they are with Porsche’s and Subaru’s.

I was always sold on Cobb, was really just curious if TCM was worth it. This thread went just a little haywire lol

WC114 · Apr 28, 2020

Yes even in sport mode. Shifts are much smoother

Gaptor · Apr 28, 2020

Badgertits said:
You read what said?- you can get gearhead tunes on a number of different devices, including Ngauge which a lot of people prefer over accessport....but You May be able to use a cobb accessport to interface w/ gearhead tunes as well.

I just wanted - tune that allowed me to “set it & forget it” & wanted a conservative tune from a highly reputable company that not only writes tunes for vehicles but builds & abuses em in the real world. also- stock Id automatically put the truck in 4A, TC off, Sport mode every time I got in it. Now I just leave it in normal mode all the time sometimes 4A if wet- but the GH tune is that good & the shifting is so buttery smooth & slick & throttle response much improved that normal “D” is my mode of preference now. Also- GH tunes offer an “auto octane adjust” feature so guess what? I don’t need my “bargain basement” device cuz I didn’t get a “bargain basement” tune- 93 octane unavailable on a road trip? 87 will be fine the GH tune will adjust. Also have a separate map for towing.....

I’m not advocating ardently against Cobb if you’re getting a TCM & ECM tune from them- but previously for few years it was full price ECM only no factual backing up of hp claims or tangible proof of performance enhancement in real world.

personally Id gravitate more toward Livernois, MPT, whipple, Gearhead for a tune on a Raptor.

and quite literally- Cobb selling “custom tunes” w/o touching TCM is the epitome of bargain basement bait & switch

Cobb is not selling “custom tunes” they’re selling a device that allows you to change your mapping of the ecu. You have the ability to run a custom tune. Does it seem odd that a company sells the ecu and TCM programming separately? Eh yeah but you have a proven brand and the support to back it as well. So you can get a Milwaukee 3/8’s ratchet with battery for 250 bucks but because snap on sells the battery separate from the tool it’s a bargain bin? I think you’ve got
The idea mixed up

TwizzleStix · Apr 28, 2020

@Badgertits Bless your heart buddy. You really don’t understand the difference in Cobb products and the run-of-the-mill attempts of others.
There is one software program (HPTuners) that all the competition uses. Cobb is the complete system front to back. Cobb develops all their own products that other brands purchase and resell as their own.
Cobb is staffed by real engineers who reverse engineer the selected ECUs, write their own code for tuning it, PLUS include much custom code to add functions that the oem doesn’t include. Cobb is light years ahead of the puny copy-cat “tuners”.

I switched to Cobb products ~13 years ago so I have just a little experience. Before Cobb there were only piggyback tuners. Cobb opened the market on serious flash tuners.

mp_tx · Apr 28, 2020

Badgertits said:
nah, I just was baffled/astonished/mystified joining this forum coming from a long list of mostly GM V8 powered vehicles & honda 4 & 6 cylinder cars & I started looking into first getting a custom dyno tune locally (nobody I could find close by in New England w/ a lot of experience specifically w/ Ford EBs) & 2nd a mail order tune which is the 2nd best option - but I the astonished part came during this research I see everyone lapping it up about cobb tunes & when I found out people were paying custom dyno tune $$$ for cobb tunes that didn’t even touch the tranny, got dyno sheets from 3rd party sources, and ZERO tangible physical data showing performance improvement, aka a before/after 1/4 mile run in similar conditions.

You’d get laughed the F**K out the forum as a vendor trying to sell that 1/2 ass snake oil w/ Almost ZERO reputation in the domestic big 3 market on a Ram/Vette/Camaro/Mustang/Nissanetc. performance site. It wouldn’t even be a consideration- seems to me a lot of raptor owners just throw mod $$$ @ the trucks w/o really thinking it through - Cobb seems to make some quality hard parts but they try to be a “we do everything” performance provider for Raptors & I just don’t see it.

******** - F’n funny paying for a tune on a TEN speed auto truck w/ TQ mgmt, shift TQ, shift points & trans logic completely untouched. I’m literally chuckling to myself right now as I type this.

Make no bones about it- rip off.

3rd party sourced dyno sheets? I can assure you Cobb has an in house dyno and uses it regularly. Seen it with my own eyes, in use (Porsche at the time). Your claims are incorrect, and therefore anything you spout off is suspect.

Gaptor · Apr 29, 2020

TwizzleStix said:
@Badgertits Bless your heart buddy. You really don’t understand the difference in Cobb products and the run-of-the-mill attempts of others.
There is one software program (HPTuners) that all the competition uses. Cobb is the complete system front to back. Cobb develops all their own products that other brands purchase and resell as their own.
Cobb is staffed by real engineers who reverse engineer the selected ECUs, write their own code for tuning it, PLUS include much custom code to add functions that the oem doesn’t include. Cobb is light years ahead of the puny copy-cat “tuners”.

I switched to Cobb products ~13 years ago so I have just a little experience. Before Cobb there were only piggyback tuners. Cobb opened the market on serious flash tuners.

Amen! Back even with the v2’s that took forever with burn in and the all black v1!

Is Cobb TCM worth it?

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