I want to love my new truck, but still havent "connected" with it.

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The auto door locks is in the settings. My 2017 does not auto lock the doors when driving...if that is what you were referencing.

Double honk is an annoying Ford thing and maybe others. Lexus has a noise, which is better than the honk.

After 2 years I’m used to pushing the button to kill auto stop start.

I like the way my 2017 rides...not sure how the 2019 is different. Stiffer on road? Sport mode shifting was the same in a Lexus GS we used to have and an Expedition. Is what it is.

You should be thrilled to have the metal oil pan and drain plug. I’m rocking the plastic set up. So far it is messy AF during changes and from what I’ve seen on here, a leaking pan waiting to happen.

Drive what makes you happy if you can afford it. The only trucks out there are not very exciting to me, even if they have a V8
 
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The auto door locks is in the settings. My 2017 does not auto lock the doors when driving...if that is what you were referencing.

Double honk is an annoying Ford thing and maybe others. Lexus has a noise, which is better than the honk.

After 2 years I’m used to pushing the button to kill auto stop start.

I like the way my 2017 rides...not sure how the 2019 is different. Stiffer on road? Sport mode shifting was the same in a Lexus GS we used to have and an Expedition. Is what it is.

You should be thrilled to have the metal oil pan and drain plug. I’m rocking the plastic set up. So far it is messy AF during changes and from what I’ve seen on here, a leaking pan waiting to happen.

Drive what makes you happy if you can afford it. The only trucks out there are not very exciting to me, even if they have a V8

yeah, I was originally shopping Lariats and Platinums starting back in 2017/2018 and that plastic oil pan was the deal breaker for me back then. Then when the truck bug hit me again my wife was nudging me towards the Raptor. My lifestyle takes me offroad quite a bit and the Raptor already comes ready for such, whereas any other truck would need a few upgrades. They made me a good deal on the Raptor so I bit.
 

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1. Tunes can change both power and or transmission behavior. You do run the risk of an engine or transmission failure not being covered by your warranty so do your research and decide if the risk is worth it.
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This is one easy way to get rid of the "feature". The beginning of the video talks about some other options.
3. Lower your tire pressure. 34R and 38F is the popular psi around here. Most dealers leave the tires at the 48-ish they leave the factory with.
4. What the poster above said.
5. Don't worry about the motor. They are great. You make enough of anything and some will have issues and those are the people who will go on a forum and complain. Go by a Honda dealer (they never break down people will tell you) and you will notice they have a full garage and they aren't just doing oil changes. I ran a Honda dealership for a while and, like most dealers regardless of the brand, the service department paid the bills. Sales is the gravy.

Trust the engine and don't overthink it. I've had a number of them and have put over 100k on a couple with zero issues.
 

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I think a GEN 1 would suit you best.
Reading threads like this make me happy I went with a 2013/2014 Gen 1 instead of waiting for a 2017...
Best of luck to you
 

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I know folks on this forum feel passionately about their trucks…but I just want to lay my thoughts out there and see if anyone else has these thoughts.

Had my 2019 Raptor for 6 months now. Traded in my 2007 Titan which I had bought new and put 200,000 miles on. While I like the Raptor I don’t really love it. Especially considering how much it costs. First there are some features that I’m not fond of: Auto Start/Stop, Auto Door Locks, Electronic Locking Tailgate, Double Horn Honk, and the various Drive Modes that have to be toggled. I know that most of these can be dealt with using Forscan so I wont dwell here.

With the drive modes it seems there aren’t any that suite ME. I like the response of sport mode on the street but hate the way it hangs onto the gears when I let off the throttle. When driving off-road, Normal mode upshifts to soon and takes me out of the power band. Switching to Deep Sand/Snow mode helps but the shift points are still a little high…and I’m stuck with using 4WD. That leads me to Baja mode. I love Baja mode for high-speed fun like racing my buddy down the beach…and it does allow me to go to 2WD for some awesome drifting/donuts…but for normal offroad driving the shift points are way too high. I also encounter situations that I'd like the shocks to be softer but this is only available in the offroad modes. These modes all have their place but really I could do without most of them if the truck just had more power and would let me toggle only the shocks. I mean there are individual settings for steering feel why not ride quality? Speaking of steering feel...every time I toggle drive modes my steering and traction control preferences get changed. I've literally spend an entire beach run toggling buttons trying to find what works for me only to have it all change next key cycle. All my previous trucks didn’t have these buttons yet always managed to stay in the band without bogging.

Then there’s the suspension. While it handles big bumps gracefully, its feels fluttery and unsettled over most rough roads. Seem like the back end is not in good coordination with the front. I will give it credit though for minimal body roll in corners so long as the road is smooth.

The biggest letdown in my opinion is the EcoBoost. I went into it open minded but its just underwhelming for this type of truck. Gas mileage is only a slight improvement over my old truck and now I’m using premium gas. It makes decent power but has to build up to it…performance does suffer badly in Texas’ climate too. What kinda truck puts out 510 lb-ft of torque and can’t even smoke the tires? My old V8 powered truck had significantly less power but felt lighter on its feet and more responsive.

I’m especially concerned about the longevity of this Ecoboom engine. I had no idea there was such a reputation of engine failures. Like my previous truck I had planned to keep this one beyond 200k/10yrs but now I’m concerned about post-warranty. Maintenance is frustrating as well. Have to climb into the engine bay, with a flashlight, to check or add oil; and every oil change has resulted in an Exxon Valdez in my garage.

I honestly miss my old Titan. It was simple and tough. Seemed to be built more solid and had some practical (to me) features that I miss having. To bad the new ones are such an eyesore.

Not trolling here. I got it in my head that I wanted a new truck and bought the coolest one I could afford. And it is COOL! I have no interest in Chevy/GMC junk, ugly (new) Titan, boring Toyota, and Dodge…some features turned me off of them but I could reconsider later.


I get what you saying - for me that was my last GMC Denali 2500 and it took selling it and getting the raptor to make me happy. Prior to the 2500 I had a 1500 with the 6.2L that I loved and put 150k miles on, I just couldnt connect with the HD. Look for a mint Titan in the style you like - budget in some nice upgrades and be happy with it!! No sense in keeping your money tied up in a truck that you arent happy with, at least I know I couldnt.....Everyone has their own taste!!
 

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Most of the reasons why you're not satisfied with your Raptor is why I ultimately sold mine and bought a '19 Ram Rebel 12A. I ordered my '17 Raptor and waited for the better part of a year to get it. I didn't think I'd miss the V8 in my '12 Ram as the Raptor had so much more power, better suspension...all of the Kool Aid stuff that Ford fed us all. This site was a battle ground between the Gen I owners and Gen II early adopters. Well it turns out that the Gen I guys were right after all, and I battled with them plenty.

I'm sorry man but the EcoBoost engines just freakin' suck. They have no soul or character at all (sold my wife's Explorer with the 3.5 in it too). They have lag, not good off idle. The sound sucks, the fake engine piped in sound always bugged me too. Next to the new Rams, the Raptor interior looks real old now too. The new Ram interiors and dash absolutely blow the Ford away. The programming of the transmission is just kind of whack in the Raptor. I never used the drive modes much as they hang in gear too much and are generally just there for Ford to offer up some tech BS. Gear hunting in normal mode, too much shifting compared to that nice 8 spd in the Ram. The suspension is good, I'll give it that. Not sold on the aluminum body either. There's no point in having a turbo V6 when you can get a V8 w/cylinder de-activation. MPG is real close to being the same. The Rebel tows over 3K more pounds as well. Had three warranty issues to boot; I had a coolant pipe pop off while offroad (production line quick connect was still on), my door locks froze up and my oil pan warped and started leaking. They replaced it with the same part lol. To sum up, the Raptor ain't all that after having it for almost 2.5 years and 28K miles. I'll never buy a non-V8 truck as long as they continue to be offered on the market.


If off road is your priority I'd check out the Power Wagon or wait for the Tremor package in the F250.
 
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I think a GEN 1 would suit you best.
Reading threads like this make me happy I went with a 2013/2014 Gen 1 instead of waiting for a 2017...
Best of luck to you

A friend has a Gen 1 Raptor. In some ways I kinda like it more than mine ;-) I don't normally buy used cars/trucks anymore, for my daily drivers, but wouldn't totally rule out trading to a Gen 1.
 

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Cool story, bro.

Why whine about it on a forum? Are you looking for a support group? A place to sit around in a circle and bitch about a voluntary purchased truck? You want us to convince you to keep it? Sell it and move on!


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Most of the reasons why you're not satisfied with your Raptor is why I ultimately sold mine and bought a '19 Ram Rebel 12A. I ordered my '17 Raptor and waited for the better part of a year to get it. I didn't think I'd miss the V8 in my '12 Ram as the Raptor had so much more power, better suspension...all of the Kool Aid stuff that Ford fed us all. This site was a battle ground between the Gen I owners and Gen II early adopters. Well it turns out that the Gen I guys were right after all, and I battled with them plenty.

I'm sorry man but the EcoBoost engines just freakin' suck. They have no soul or character at all (sold my wife's Explorer with the 3.5 in it too). They have lag, not good off idle. The sound sucks, the fake engine piped in sound always bugged me too. Next to the new Rams, the Raptor interior looks real old now too. The new Ram interiors and dash absolutely blow the Ford away. The programming of the transmission is just kind of whack in the Raptor. I never used the drive modes much as they hang in gear too much and are generally just there for Ford to offer up some tech BS. Gear hunting in normal mode, too much shifting compared to that nice 8 spd in the Ram. The suspension is good, I'll give it that. Not sold on the aluminum body either. There's no point in having a turbo V6 when you can get a V8 w/cylinder de-activation. MPG is real close to being the same. The Rebel tows over 3K more pounds as well. Had three warranty issues to boot; I had a coolant pipe pop off while offroad (production line quick connect was still on), my door locks froze up and my oil pan warped and started leaking. They replaced it with the same part lol. To sum up, the Raptor ain't all that after having it for almost 2.5 years and 28K miles. I'll never buy a non-V8 truck as long as they continue to be offered on the market.


If off road is your priority I'd check out the Power Wagon or wait for the Tremor package in the F250.

This may have changed but the last time I drove a Ram the back seat bottom was fixed and would not raise up; and the seatback would not fold down. That and the rotory gear selector were deal killers for me. I'm not fond of cylinder deactivation either but, like auto start/stop, would be willing to give it a chance. Sounds like you had some issues with your Ecoboost...luckily I can't claim any mechanical problems other than rough idle and stumbling very rarely. Just personal nuances for me.
 
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Cool story, bro.

Why whine about it on a forum? Are you looking for a support group? A place to sit around in a circle and bitch about a voluntary purchased truck? You want us to convince you to keep it? Sell it and move on!


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And there's that guy.

Don't be that guy.

You know good and well the line of thought of this post. You bitch about what a waste this thread is yet you are the one wasting the time and effort to make a ****** reply. Buzz off if you dont like it.
 
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