smurfslayer
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I mostly finished the swap out of the Sony amp in my ’17 Rap.
I’d been suffering with the muddy, imprecise mids and highs, bass roll off and funky eq for way too long.
I was hoping to do this in a couple more stages, but fate wouldn’t have it so I spent all day Sunday making all the stuff fit behind the seat.
I had a great board to mount everything on, the only problem was, it was .5” thick and the seat was hitting things when raising the seat. I had it all mapped for component positions and all. Which brings me to this.
The next time I post up some question that leads someone to believe I’m about to undertake a modification to truck audio, please remind me of this:
Ok, so I pulled the board and struggled to figure out how to make things fit where the seat was still able to be raised.
the DSR1 I am using comes with factory harnesses that really do a good job of simplifying things once you sort everything out. The sub connection is a little funky. They have 2 black, bare wire leads but also have RCA jacks for sub out. I figured the RCAs were correct and I was right.
It was a dog fight much of the day. I ended up repurposing the factory bracket for the Sony amp and after a frustrating series of mock ups finally got the sub amp mounted low where the sony amp was, main amp up near the seat bracket on the back wall (there’s more clearance there when you raise the seats) and DSR1 just above it. The wiring was $hitful.
I ran Morel components up front - well, the tweets anyway.... so I put the x-over by the amps, and ran wire to the tweets. I ran 3 feet short on the passenger side. Fortunately I had 5 feet extra on the driver’s side; cut, splice, connect and move on. By now, the wiring is looking like a bird nest for a very large bird. As I’m running out of daylight, I give up on neat and concentrate on can I get it to breath, not catch fire and produce sound? Yes, yes, and no, respectively.
just before dark I had to stop for food, I came back out and found the DSR on, but neither amp is breathing. Nothing. They have juice, signal, power but won’t come on. too dark to do any practical troubleshooting so I head inside for a Wild Turkey Kentucky Spirit
I check in the morning, wires verified, connectivity, got +/- at the amp, got signal. Mysteriously, after power cycling 2 or 3 times, I get sound ! Just about the time I pull a crimp connector off the main amp power wire, right at the fuse block. Repair, fire back up, and I get main amp working. No chimes, but who needs chimes anyway? Sub amp not working though. Many minutes of head scratching, denial, anger, bargaining, depression, back to anger... I call the ADS guys who partner with Rockford on the DSR1. They suggest I might want to consider changing the power on mode to signal, from speaker...
DOH!
Sub amp is now breathing. Since I’ve changed things, I run the sine wave tone again and set the gain on the sub. I should’ve worn ear plugs, damn that was loud. I had the main amp gain down close to stock and slowly cranked it up and mostly it was good.
Awesome, I can go work, and with a few smoke breaks, and lunch, I can clean up the install. Since I don’t smoke, all the smoke break time goes toward tidying up. Oh. My. GOD. there are wires everywhere. I tie, tape, bind and affix for an hour easy. After work, I finish up, fire up...
No Sub. repeat the stages of grief. I trace everything in the circuit, have power, signal, amp is on. after 20 minutes I decide to try the DSR app. Somehow, the gain got set to some ridiculous negative value. I turn it up and **** !! there is bass.
Now I have much cleaner, more crisp sound, throughout the volume range, no bass roll off, and I can clearly hear lyrics, rhythm tracks, quite solos... all from outside the truck with all the windows up
My chimes mysteriously started working. Fortunately, they’re not horribly loud because I am not able to adjust the volume on them, despite the instructions. The sync button beep no longer works either, it mutes a channel, but doesn’t make a sound. I’m betting that used to come from the center channel.
anyway, a few clean up items and I can move on to another mod.
I need to trim the power run to both amps and the DSR mount could be better. Last will be pulling the A series 6x9 from the front doors and putting in the Morels. I’m eager to get this one behind me.
I’d been suffering with the muddy, imprecise mids and highs, bass roll off and funky eq for way too long.
I was hoping to do this in a couple more stages, but fate wouldn’t have it so I spent all day Sunday making all the stuff fit behind the seat.
I had a great board to mount everything on, the only problem was, it was .5” thick and the seat was hitting things when raising the seat. I had it all mapped for component positions and all. Which brings me to this.
The next time I post up some question that leads someone to believe I’m about to undertake a modification to truck audio, please remind me of this:
Ok, so I pulled the board and struggled to figure out how to make things fit where the seat was still able to be raised.
the DSR1 I am using comes with factory harnesses that really do a good job of simplifying things once you sort everything out. The sub connection is a little funky. They have 2 black, bare wire leads but also have RCA jacks for sub out. I figured the RCAs were correct and I was right.
It was a dog fight much of the day. I ended up repurposing the factory bracket for the Sony amp and after a frustrating series of mock ups finally got the sub amp mounted low where the sony amp was, main amp up near the seat bracket on the back wall (there’s more clearance there when you raise the seats) and DSR1 just above it. The wiring was $hitful.
I ran Morel components up front - well, the tweets anyway.... so I put the x-over by the amps, and ran wire to the tweets. I ran 3 feet short on the passenger side. Fortunately I had 5 feet extra on the driver’s side; cut, splice, connect and move on. By now, the wiring is looking like a bird nest for a very large bird. As I’m running out of daylight, I give up on neat and concentrate on can I get it to breath, not catch fire and produce sound? Yes, yes, and no, respectively.
just before dark I had to stop for food, I came back out and found the DSR on, but neither amp is breathing. Nothing. They have juice, signal, power but won’t come on. too dark to do any practical troubleshooting so I head inside for a Wild Turkey Kentucky Spirit
I check in the morning, wires verified, connectivity, got +/- at the amp, got signal. Mysteriously, after power cycling 2 or 3 times, I get sound ! Just about the time I pull a crimp connector off the main amp power wire, right at the fuse block. Repair, fire back up, and I get main amp working. No chimes, but who needs chimes anyway? Sub amp not working though. Many minutes of head scratching, denial, anger, bargaining, depression, back to anger... I call the ADS guys who partner with Rockford on the DSR1. They suggest I might want to consider changing the power on mode to signal, from speaker...
DOH!
Sub amp is now breathing. Since I’ve changed things, I run the sine wave tone again and set the gain on the sub. I should’ve worn ear plugs, damn that was loud. I had the main amp gain down close to stock and slowly cranked it up and mostly it was good.
Awesome, I can go work, and with a few smoke breaks, and lunch, I can clean up the install. Since I don’t smoke, all the smoke break time goes toward tidying up. Oh. My. GOD. there are wires everywhere. I tie, tape, bind and affix for an hour easy. After work, I finish up, fire up...
No Sub. repeat the stages of grief. I trace everything in the circuit, have power, signal, amp is on. after 20 minutes I decide to try the DSR app. Somehow, the gain got set to some ridiculous negative value. I turn it up and **** !! there is bass.
Now I have much cleaner, more crisp sound, throughout the volume range, no bass roll off, and I can clearly hear lyrics, rhythm tracks, quite solos... all from outside the truck with all the windows up
My chimes mysteriously started working. Fortunately, they’re not horribly loud because I am not able to adjust the volume on them, despite the instructions. The sync button beep no longer works either, it mutes a channel, but doesn’t make a sound. I’m betting that used to come from the center channel.
anyway, a few clean up items and I can move on to another mod.
I need to trim the power run to both amps and the DSR mount could be better. Last will be pulling the A series 6x9 from the front doors and putting in the Morels. I’m eager to get this one behind me.