Long winded Gen 1 VS Gen 2

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I thought supercharging my truck would be $10,000. It’s not. Especially if you have some miles on the clock. Might be more worth it to snag a low mile Whipple or Roush build if you see one.

And I can’t seem to go a day without some sort of cam phaser thread polluting my email…
 
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I thought supercharging my truck would be $10,000. It’s not. Especially if you have some miles on the clock. Might be more worth it to snag a low mile Whipple or Roush build if you see one.

And I can’t seem to go a day without some sort of cam phaser thread polluting my email…
It may look like I need to rethink my budgeting? Are we talking the typical Covid 30% increase or is this going to be a 20k undertaking ?
 

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I had a thread a few months ago you might want to check out. I’m on mobile now and don’t know how to link it. Bought a procharger tuner kit and reached out to Livernois to quote the install. They quoted me $10,000 for the install, on top of the $6,500 for the kit. The thread includes what preventative steps they suggested to ensure the engine didn’t explode. Most agreed those steps were reasonable.

At the end of the day, I had no intention of dropping around $20,000 to supercharge when I could just buy a used Gen II. I elected to return the procharger and roll that money into a tune and stainless works exhaust/header combo.

I also just crossed 100,000 miles and paid around $1,600 for coils, plugs, wires, and trans filter+fluid at the ford dealer…aaaaand I’m due for more tires. I’m not crying, I love my truck. But if you buy a used Gen I be aware that these costs are imminent.

If I was in your position and wanted a Gen I with a blower I would find a low mileage Roush or Whipple build from somewhere down south. I bought my truck in Arkansa and it was rust free, which is unheard of where I’m from.
 
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I had a thread a few months ago you might want to check out. I’m on mobile now and don’t know how to link it. Bought a procharger tuner kit and reached out to Livernois to quote the install. They quoted me $10,000 for the install, on top of the $6,500 for the kit. The thread includes what preventative steps they suggested to ensure the engine didn’t explode. Most agreed those steps were reasonable.

At the end of the day, I had no intention of dropping around $20,000 to supercharge when I could just buy a used Gen II. I elected to return the procharger and roll that money into a tune and stainless works exhaust/header combo.

I also just crossed 100,000 miles and paid around $1,600 for coils, plugs, wires, and trans filter+fluid at the ford dealer…aaaaand I’m due for more tires. I’m not crying, I love my truck. But if you buy a used Gen I be aware that these costs are imminent.

If I was in your position and wanted a Gen I with a blower I would find a low mileage Roush or Whipple build from somewhere down south. I bought my truck in Arkansa and it was rust free, which is unheard of where I’m from.
Interesting…. My plan was to install it myself, and get a base tune on it before taking it in to be dialed up on the dyno.
 

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That would save quite a few bucks. I would suggest taking a look at that thread to see some of the recommendations I received when I was looking at getting blown ;).
 
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That would save quite a few bucks. I would suggest taking a look at that thread to see some of the recommendations I received when I was looking at getting blown ;).
i read your thread, it had some valid items. However i am almost deadset on buying one, slapping a blower on, and taking it to send city... very similar to my LBZ... big tune, trans goes boom.. big turbo... heads go boom.... bad fuel.. injectors went.... all hopped up... piston went crack....(all while being my DD...) this raptor will sit inside a shop/garage... and be driven on Saturdays.... and on a few trips. I have a 2021 lariat sitting at the house, in case i need something practical.....
 

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If you don’t like the price of the current gen 3’s you’re not going to like the R.

Used prices are about to correct. Hold fast for a couple more months and you’ll find some deals.
For fun I stopped in to a car max this weekend to see what they would give me for mine. The offer was $75000 with 20 thousand miles on truck. More than I paid for my 2019 fully loaded. I agree with WTX hold out prices will come down.
 

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I owned a Gen 1 for more than 8 years. There were many ups, and a few downs.
What I liked: Power, comfort, impressive and fun off road capability, massive cabin, nice options (mine was hard loaded), great seats. Didn't burn a drop of oil.
Irritations: Fuse 20 (I think), the power rear window switch failed (20 bucks and 15 mins to replace), the locker dial (pull to lock the diff) wore out and needed to be replaced, that was another 30 bucks and 20 mins to fix.

The only serious mechanical failure was the output speed sensor on the vehicle's transmission lead frame. When it failed, the truck would intermittently stall. As I recall, it was $900 or so dollars to repair at my local shop. Sadly for me, Ford would've fixed it, via recall, a month later. And because I didn't get it fixed at the dealer, FMC refused to reimburse me. The last issue was the AC. I live in Dallas and use the AC approximately 10 months out of the year. When I traded the truck last month, I was on my third compressor, which cost approximately 1k per instance. The truck had 98k miles on the clock when I traded it in.

If you buy a Gen 1, it will likely be a rewarding experience. There wasn't a day that passed where I regretted owning my Gen 1. If you decide to buy a Gen 1, I'm sure you will find a post or two on this forum about what to look for when you're in Gen 1 market. From my experience, make sure the shocks aren't leaking, verify the truck bed gaps are even with the cab (if not: likely frame damage), look over all of the the power equipment, including the rear defroster, and make sure you put the truck in 4WD: Both 4 high and 4 low. A word of caution: torque steer is evident when the truck is in 4WD, it's horrible. The 6.2L V8 sounded great, and after 8+ years and two newer generations of Raptors, the truck still got complimented regularly. Lastly, I averaged 10.2 MPG combined on factory recommended 87 octane. No leaks, no squeaks, no rattles. She was a good truck. Certainly one of the best I've owned over the last 35 years.
 
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