Finally decided on suspension, Camburg, no, Evil Offroad, no, RPG, no, SVC, no, HM, of course, When You Know, You Know!

[06z]

I don’t see the price of the rear end on HM. Any details on that ?

You can call HM @ (951)595-0105.
All the pricing is in here in the video below.

 

[06z]

How much f/r travel is this bad boy pulling?

On all 4wd long travel systems , max travel is 17.5”. This is a 95” wide, if anyone ever tells you their kit has more travel, unless it’s 97 inches or wider, it’s not physically possible. Especially if they run RCV axles as those cause the truck to have less travel due to more binding than the stock axles. they have more material to make them stronger but cause binding at a lesser angle than the stock axle.

For the rear end, it is strapped I believe at 17 3/4”. A very well balanced truck. And the suspension hasn’t even been tuned yet. Imagine how it’s gonna work tuned. When you know, you know.

 

[TomDirt]

Anyone who runs deavers with a bed cage should be running this driveshaft to utilize the full travel. Hopefully limit straps are used on other vehicles that are using the stock drive shaft.

The good news is, the $1500 stated cost of a  new (quality) splined driveshaft is offset by the used value of the oem one-piece aluminum one. I'm seeing them at over $300 to $400 depending on condition. The bad news is, used Raptor leaf springs aren't worth spit.

 

[FordPerf Addict]

I wonder if he has a kit like this for the gen3 rear end. Would love to see that

 

[roger7254]

I wonder if he has a kit like this for the gen3 rear end. Would love to see that

they said they have it, but no gen3 owners pulled the trigger!

 

[TomDirt]

1 photo shows the (black) Wilwood calipers, but another seems to show (red) possibly Alcons?

 

[06z]

1 photo shows the (black) Wilwood calipers, but another seems to show (red) possibly Alcons?

Good eye, I had Alcons on it but they do not fit with the HM front. So I sold them and Kevin recommended the Wilwoods as they bolt right up with no shims or goofy spacers like some others use. The Wilwoods are much better than the Alcons in modulation, feel and power. Much lighter and cost way less too.

 

[TomDirt]

A front pair of Wilwoods (almost) fit my budget...... Alcons, not so much.

 

[06z]

A front pair of Wilwoods (almost) fit my budget...... Alcons, not so much.

In my opinion, Alcons are the past and Wilwoods are the future. Wilwoods are much better than Alcons. I have had both.

 

[TomDirt]

Either way, a 3 ton Raptor absolutely needs upgraded brakes. The oem brakes on my Gen 1, with 35's, were identical to all the standard F150 models... on 31's. Wilwood got smart and saw the market for a reasonably priced, bolt on, demonstrably better setup; that fits under 17" wheels. The only thing they didn't do, was a side by side comparison with the oem brakes showing stopping distance & heat soak numbers. Yep, I totally agree they're pretty, but wtf? Everything from laundry detergent to tampon manufacturers to rec tal creams do comparisons with the competition. Why not front brakes?