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2019+ Fox 3.0 Live Valve Shocks!

Discussion in 'Ford Raptor Suspension Discussion and Modification' started by NEOGARAGE, Sep 26, 2019.

  1. Rick Luna

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    I have the live valves on my truck and setting to normal. If you find the stock live valves to be to stiff don't upgrade unless you plan on doing some more serious off-roading. I think the 3.0 Live Valve are noticeably more firm than stock. It doesn't bother me but I can tell.

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    how many threads or inches did you adjust your front coils?
    what are your measurements from the ground to fender flare?
     
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    I didn't make any adjustments or add any preload. Mine are at factory settings and ride height.

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    Second update: I had the ride height calibration done and can report that the truck is softer still even at 1.5" of lift. The truck hits compression much closer to stock (still a bit stiffer given the preload and the 3.0s' damping), which is a plus in my view. As for down travel, there is still an audible thunk but its not as harsh as it was at first. I am still going to reduce overall lift down to 3/4" from 1.5" to gain a bit more of the stock down travel. Note I am not running 37s, and have no plans to do so either. So I guess, it is really coming down to the right balance of added ride height for obstacle clearance, and down travel. I hope to find the balance that works best for me, but your experience may differ.

    I also ran the shocks in medium and full firm settings over the same dirt road, at high speeds. This road has quite a few undulations, rocks embedded in the surface etc. to really test out how the truck performs. In a straight line, the truck did better at speed with the firmer settings (no real surprise there). But I found that when going through turns with lots of bumps, rocks, elevation changes, the medium setting gave more confidence - the wheels could track the ground better and just gave more grip. I will continue to test this, and am curious of others' experience.

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    Hey Ryan would you mind posting a picture of the bracket and sensor that you adjusted. I'm curious to see where mine is. I had a shop install mine but curious to see how it compares to yours. I'm running Icon UCA's.
    I also want to have my shocks recalibrated after I add some preload. What is the procedure called or how was it written up in your service order? It would help me let my service advisor know what I'm asking for when that time comes.
    Thanks we all appreciate your contribution to this thread.

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  6. Ryan C

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    If you have Icon UCAs, then your system is different. You can check out the detailed install instructions, which talk about setting the live valve sensors using Icon's bracket system: https://images.iconfigurators.app/pdf/Icon_Dynamics/I98562DJ_REVB.pdf

    I bet you can get it pretty close with the Icon brackets and doing the measurements, but you can get it exactly right by asking the Ford tech to set ride height to zero ;o).

    The Ford invoice says: Confirmed customer concern. Had to reset tire pressures and TPMS. Confirmed check list for ride height parameters. Reset height level to zero.

    They charged me 0.8 hour, but I had low tire pressures and my truck was dirty
     
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    Third update: so I had the preload reduced to 3/8" on the collars, meaning there is now an 8" fender gap to tire and 3/4" lift from stock (I'm so obsessed with this that I actually went to a dealership and measured two different 2020 trucks - both showed 7 1/4" to the front tire from the fender). The truck drives much better offroad now, with way better turn in, less harsh drop out clunk, and still improved compression control and capability than stock. Keep in mind this is about 1.5" above what a 2017/2018 would be stock, so there is still a decent improvement in ride height.

    Your experience may vary, but I've been on a saga of sorts to try to figure out how to run these shocks in a manner that doesn't ruin overall ride quality and performance. Hopefully you all find my posts on this topic helpful.

    One more thing re settings on the live valve coilovers and rear shocks - offroad, I am largely driving fast on rougher dirt and rock roads up here near Vancouver, BC, with lots of undulation and corners. I don't really think driving fast in a straight line is the funnest thing, so go looking for more dynamic places to drive. There's no sand up here. I use Baja mode, 4wd, rear diff locked. I drive pretty quick I think, but obviously not a pro rally racer or anything. Anyways, I found that soft puts the truck all over the place in direction changes - there was a lot of traction but too much weight transfer in corners. I found the firm setting to be too rough for corners with rocks embedded into the surface. The truck just skitters across the road sideways and can't find traction. The medium setting seems to be the best overall compromise for the conditions I've been driving in. I still have to experiment with softer air pressures - I typically run around 29 psi all four corners, warm.

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