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<blockquote data-quote="jpk" data-source="post: 1890524" data-attributes="member: 65872"><p>I went through the umpteen stages of grief reading this thread. I had a deposit on a 2023 Raptor and the truck finally arrived and is on its way to me from the dealer right now as we speak. I had agonized over a F-150 or F-250 Tremor vs a Raptor and ultimately went with the Raptor because I thought it had the Torsen in front like the Tremors and even more features. A Torsen front diff was was a must-have option for me on either the Tremor or Raptor. My previous F-150 never left me stuck in all manner of ice and snow even though it didn't have a front limited slip, but I wanted the best traction options possible for my new truck.</p><p></p><p>After going through this thread and then checking a few places, I think it has indeed been deleted from the Raptor with Ecoboost when they dropped it for the Raptor R in 2023. However, after getting to the end of this thread and then searching around, I think this was intentional after finally coming to grips with it.</p><p></p><p>It's mentioned in the video here that they no longer believe it is needed for the Gen3 Raptor:</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://tfltruck.com/2022/10/video-the-2023-fore-f-150-raptor-r-gains-a-predator-supercharged-v8-engine-loses-this-one-feature/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>Again here:</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/ford-raptor-r-first-drive-four-wheeler/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>And here:</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a41794286/2023-ford-f-150-raptor-r-drive/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>"<em>Given the well-watered state of the dunes, indulging our juvenile urge to throw sand required running in rear-drive mode. Which is how we discovered that, in addition to the electronic locker, there's a brake-based limited-slip function for the open rear differential. The brake-based system works when one side or the other experiences a flare in wheel speed, and the brake on that side gives a squeeze to send power back to the other side. This system is operating in the background even when the AdvanceTrac stability-control system is completely disabled. So if, say, you want to roost some dunes in two-wheel drive, where the rear locker can't be engaged, the rear brakes will be getting a workout.</em>"</p><p></p><p>After I calmed down, I realize the truck is probably going to drive just fine in snow and sand. The Land Rover line is renown for having incredible traction in all conditions and you pay a premium for a Rover just to get their electronic traction controls instead of driving a Jeep with locking front diffs. I never missed having a locking or limited slip front diff in a Rover because I knew it had the fancy computer that was designed for an open front diff. Seems that Ford is now saying they have a similar system on the Raptor.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jpk, post: 1890524, member: 65872"] I went through the umpteen stages of grief reading this thread. I had a deposit on a 2023 Raptor and the truck finally arrived and is on its way to me from the dealer right now as we speak. I had agonized over a F-150 or F-250 Tremor vs a Raptor and ultimately went with the Raptor because I thought it had the Torsen in front like the Tremors and even more features. A Torsen front diff was was a must-have option for me on either the Tremor or Raptor. My previous F-150 never left me stuck in all manner of ice and snow even though it didn't have a front limited slip, but I wanted the best traction options possible for my new truck. After going through this thread and then checking a few places, I think it has indeed been deleted from the Raptor with Ecoboost when they dropped it for the Raptor R in 2023. However, after getting to the end of this thread and then searching around, I think this was intentional after finally coming to grips with it. It's mentioned in the video here that they no longer believe it is needed for the Gen3 Raptor: [URL unfurl="true"]https://tfltruck.com/2022/10/video-the-2023-fore-f-150-raptor-r-gains-a-predator-supercharged-v8-engine-loses-this-one-feature/[/URL] Again here: [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/ford-raptor-r-first-drive-four-wheeler/[/URL] And here: [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a41794286/2023-ford-f-150-raptor-r-drive/[/URL] "[I]Given the well-watered state of the dunes, indulging our juvenile urge to throw sand required running in rear-drive mode. Which is how we discovered that, in addition to the electronic locker, there's a brake-based limited-slip function for the open rear differential. The brake-based system works when one side or the other experiences a flare in wheel speed, and the brake on that side gives a squeeze to send power back to the other side. This system is operating in the background even when the AdvanceTrac stability-control system is completely disabled. So if, say, you want to roost some dunes in two-wheel drive, where the rear locker can't be engaged, the rear brakes will be getting a workout.[/I]" After I calmed down, I realize the truck is probably going to drive just fine in snow and sand. The Land Rover line is renown for having incredible traction in all conditions and you pay a premium for a Rover just to get their electronic traction controls instead of driving a Jeep with locking front diffs. I never missed having a locking or limited slip front diff in a Rover because I knew it had the fancy computer that was designed for an open front diff. Seems that Ford is now saying they have a similar system on the Raptor. [/QUOTE]
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