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<blockquote data-quote="FordTechOne" data-source="post: 1497070" data-attributes="member: 35543"><p>No reputable company is going to sell a tune if they have knowledge of engine failures resulting from it. However, OE requirements are much more stringent than aftermarket. You might have seen one of the recent threads where a user was towing with a tune at high elevation and the truck went into limp mode. That would never pass even the most basic Ford durability test.</p><p></p><p>Ford is only responsible for covering manufacturing/quality/design defects. That is true for every OEM, not just Ford. To make reference to a single engine failure out of the millions of F-Series produced each year and conclude that there is a "track record" with Gen 2's is baseless and misinformed.</p><p></p><p>There are plenty of aftermarket tunes that blow engines. We just recently had a Shelby Supercharged F-150 that is going on to it's 3rd engine; in both cases cylinder 7 was overheated and scored with melted piston ring lands.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So what you're saying is in addition to the common warranty issues that occur with any brand, Ford should also cover powertrain failures on vehicles with aftermarket tunes. Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds? Forum posts are not a direct correlation to the extent of an issue; you only hear the people that have a concern, not the vastly larger majority without.</p><p></p><p>Once again, the single reference to make to an engine failure has nothing to do with Ford's "tune", nor is it a common failure by any definition. There is no issue with the factory calibration, nor would Ford's calibration engineering not need to benefit from the aftermarket. If Ford engineers could get the extra power out of the engine and have it pass all required OE durability and stress testing, they certainly would.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FordTechOne, post: 1497070, member: 35543"] No reputable company is going to sell a tune if they have knowledge of engine failures resulting from it. However, OE requirements are much more stringent than aftermarket. You might have seen one of the recent threads where a user was towing with a tune at high elevation and the truck went into limp mode. That would never pass even the most basic Ford durability test. Ford is only responsible for covering manufacturing/quality/design defects. That is true for every OEM, not just Ford. To make reference to a single engine failure out of the millions of F-Series produced each year and conclude that there is a "track record" with Gen 2's is baseless and misinformed. There are plenty of aftermarket tunes that blow engines. We just recently had a Shelby Supercharged F-150 that is going on to it's 3rd engine; in both cases cylinder 7 was overheated and scored with melted piston ring lands. So what you're saying is in addition to the common warranty issues that occur with any brand, Ford should also cover powertrain failures on vehicles with aftermarket tunes. Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds? Forum posts are not a direct correlation to the extent of an issue; you only hear the people that have a concern, not the vastly larger majority without. Once again, the single reference to make to an engine failure has nothing to do with Ford's "tune", nor is it a common failure by any definition. There is no issue with the factory calibration, nor would Ford's calibration engineering not need to benefit from the aftermarket. If Ford engineers could get the extra power out of the engine and have it pass all required OE durability and stress testing, they certainly would. [/QUOTE]
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