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<blockquote data-quote="crouton" data-source="post: 1578263" data-attributes="member: 46156"><p>Hi, I'm new here and am looking for a new truck. I posted on another forum as well and got to talk with a very nice Raptor owner, but am wondering if someone can help me with the questions I have.</p><p></p><p>I'm planning on keeping whatever truck I buy now for a pretty long time, so I'd like to figure out how reliable these trucks have been. I've read about cam phaser issues and a few transmission failures (which make me a little insecure, because it's made in collab with GM). The cam phaser issue seems to be way more common, though.</p><p>Is this still a problem in 2020? It's only covered for 2 years where I live, so I'm a little worried?</p><p></p><p>The last batch of Raptors is being sold in my area right now. I noticed they say "LOBO Raptor". Apparently they were meant for Mexico, but they were able to ship them to Europe because demand seems to be pretty high and because they were one of the last models made. Is there a big difference between Lobo and F150, or just the name? I did notice parts of the seats are cloth?</p><p></p><p>I've also read there were TSB's for leaky valve covers and seals in the turbo's (people who had smokey tailpipes after idling). Is this still an issue?</p><p></p><p>Does the back-up cam work reliably (read on this forum it works intermittendly)?</p><p></p><p>Is there a big difference in terms of driveline between this and a Limited?</p><p>The sales guy literally wanted to push me to a 3.5TT Limited immediately. He said it's better value (€20k less), and has the same 4x4 system, just less beefy components. I know absolutely nothing about Ford trucks, but I'm not sure if he was right, because he said a few things about RAM's that were wrong as well.</p><p>He said a Limited can do everything I need - mostly grass and mud, so I genuinely wondered why he said that...</p><p></p><p>I currently have a 4th gen RAM with the (more expensive) BW44-44 and it's honestly garbage off-road, which is why I decided to look for something now instead of continuing to struggle. I know (now) the Rebels had a different transfer case that was more suitable for going off-road, but he claims they're identical (not true, some trim levels just suck off-road, especially the 'fancier' ones).</p><p></p><p>Any input is greatly appreciated. If you know of anything that is known to go out on these trucks or whatever, I'd love to know (not here to bash them, I want to learn). If someone asked me about RAM's I'd be honest and tell them about all the stuff that's known to break (which is why I'm not interested in spending money on a truck with the same engine and transmission, and flaws).</p><p></p><p>Thanks a lot! I scheduled a test drive already as well, just kinda want to know what I'm looking at/for because I trust owners a lot more than a sales representative! Thank you!!!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="crouton, post: 1578263, member: 46156"] Hi, I'm new here and am looking for a new truck. I posted on another forum as well and got to talk with a very nice Raptor owner, but am wondering if someone can help me with the questions I have. I'm planning on keeping whatever truck I buy now for a pretty long time, so I'd like to figure out how reliable these trucks have been. I've read about cam phaser issues and a few transmission failures (which make me a little insecure, because it's made in collab with GM). The cam phaser issue seems to be way more common, though. Is this still a problem in 2020? It's only covered for 2 years where I live, so I'm a little worried? The last batch of Raptors is being sold in my area right now. I noticed they say "LOBO Raptor". Apparently they were meant for Mexico, but they were able to ship them to Europe because demand seems to be pretty high and because they were one of the last models made. Is there a big difference between Lobo and F150, or just the name? I did notice parts of the seats are cloth? I've also read there were TSB's for leaky valve covers and seals in the turbo's (people who had smokey tailpipes after idling). Is this still an issue? Does the back-up cam work reliably (read on this forum it works intermittendly)? Is there a big difference in terms of driveline between this and a Limited? The sales guy literally wanted to push me to a 3.5TT Limited immediately. He said it's better value (€20k less), and has the same 4x4 system, just less beefy components. I know absolutely nothing about Ford trucks, but I'm not sure if he was right, because he said a few things about RAM's that were wrong as well. He said a Limited can do everything I need - mostly grass and mud, so I genuinely wondered why he said that... I currently have a 4th gen RAM with the (more expensive) BW44-44 and it's honestly garbage off-road, which is why I decided to look for something now instead of continuing to struggle. I know (now) the Rebels had a different transfer case that was more suitable for going off-road, but he claims they're identical (not true, some trim levels just suck off-road, especially the 'fancier' ones). Any input is greatly appreciated. If you know of anything that is known to go out on these trucks or whatever, I'd love to know (not here to bash them, I want to learn). If someone asked me about RAM's I'd be honest and tell them about all the stuff that's known to break (which is why I'm not interested in spending money on a truck with the same engine and transmission, and flaws). Thanks a lot! I scheduled a test drive already as well, just kinda want to know what I'm looking at/for because I trust owners a lot more than a sales representative! Thank you!!!! [/QUOTE]
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