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<blockquote data-quote="TurboTJ" data-source="post: 1440048" data-attributes="member: 33074"><p>I am not a lawyer but I don’t believe there is any liability here. Leaving one stranded on the side of the road or idling in limp mode at 10MPH comes with more liability. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That’s pretty much how I’m feeling.. And this is not the first issue. The computers have freaked out and left me stranded twice when the car would not start. </p><p></p><p>can anyone confirm a PCM update is even available? It’s sounding more and more like all they did was a reset. </p><p></p><p>Thanks for all the feedback (almost) everyone! </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thank you for your well articulated and constructive feed back. I wish I could watch YouTube videos and become an expert. Who needs engineering school anyways?? </p><p></p><p>However, the video is good and this guy doesn’t even touch on some of the more harmful aspects of low RPM bogging of engines. However, you can feel when an engine is bogged and this was not the situation I was in. Data logging has shown zero pre ignition or engine knock and 10PSI of boost at over 2k rpms should be fine. As engineers, we design for this. </p><p></p><p>I checked the dash cam and it looks like I accelerated from 78 to 85 over a decent amount of time before things go south. I highly doubt this causes a bogging situation. It’s simply a case where the tranny would have likely downshifted to 9. </p><p></p><p>For the sake of argument, let’s say that an issue exist on the Ecoboost with LSPI. I would expect Ford to correct this (and maybe they did) with a change of oil type, a reduction of boost at that specific RPM band, enriched fuel conditions, decreased throttle opening angle and maybe decreased timing. Problem solved! There are lots of knobs to turn besides failing. </p><p></p><p>Oorrrr you can just say, at 10PSI of boost at >2k RPM’s, Fords are allowed to break down. That’s cool too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TurboTJ, post: 1440048, member: 33074"] I am not a lawyer but I don’t believe there is any liability here. Leaving one stranded on the side of the road or idling in limp mode at 10MPH comes with more liability. That’s pretty much how I’m feeling.. And this is not the first issue. The computers have freaked out and left me stranded twice when the car would not start. can anyone confirm a PCM update is even available? It’s sounding more and more like all they did was a reset. Thanks for all the feedback (almost) everyone! Thank you for your well articulated and constructive feed back. I wish I could watch YouTube videos and become an expert. Who needs engineering school anyways?? However, the video is good and this guy doesn’t even touch on some of the more harmful aspects of low RPM bogging of engines. However, you can feel when an engine is bogged and this was not the situation I was in. Data logging has shown zero pre ignition or engine knock and 10PSI of boost at over 2k rpms should be fine. As engineers, we design for this. I checked the dash cam and it looks like I accelerated from 78 to 85 over a decent amount of time before things go south. I highly doubt this causes a bogging situation. It’s simply a case where the tranny would have likely downshifted to 9. For the sake of argument, let’s say that an issue exist on the Ecoboost with LSPI. I would expect Ford to correct this (and maybe they did) with a change of oil type, a reduction of boost at that specific RPM band, enriched fuel conditions, decreased throttle opening angle and maybe decreased timing. Problem solved! There are lots of knobs to turn besides failing. Oorrrr you can just say, at 10PSI of boost at >2k RPM’s, Fords are allowed to break down. That’s cool too. [/QUOTE]
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