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<blockquote data-quote="91Eunos" data-source="post: 1314809" data-attributes="member: 29616"><p>Agree...or possibly at Ford in their wheel and tire department.</p><p></p><p>I’ve yet to see a factory wheel and tire with the red dot (or the yellow one depending on your preference) properly aligned over the valve stem. I’ve even seen a few pics of aftermarket wheels and tires here with the tires installed incorrectly.</p><p></p><p>Don’t know if it’s because I’m coming from a racing background (bicycles, motorcycles, and Spec Miata) where attention to weight and especially rotating mass matters a lot that has me so focused on this aspect of performance, but I think there’s a reason so many people (including me) have been having issues with their stock BFGs... <strong>Edit</strong>: Or maybe Raptor owners...especially those who actually take their trucks off road...are bending their rims, making them more out of round than average, even if only very slightly.</p><p></p><p>Maybe BFGs are more out of round than the average tire, or the internal belt construction is such that aligning the lightest spot on the tire (yellow dot) or maximum radial runout (high spot...red dot) is more critical than on other brand tires.</p><p></p><p>In general, the runout is <u>much</u> more critical than weight (weight can be easily counter balanced), so you should always match the red dot with the low point alignment reference on your rim; unless otherwise indicated by your rim manufacturer this is the valve stem. Almost every manufacturer drills the valve stem hole at the low runout point.</p><p></p><p>To be clear, modern manufacturing tolerances for wheels and tires are tight enough that this is irrelevant for 99% or more of us, but that 1% of us who have bad experiences from tolerance stacking will be very noticible by comparison. And more widely known due to forums like this one...</p><p></p><p>Regardless, if your tire takes a lot of weight to balance the first thing a reputable installer will do is break the bead and spin the tire on the rim to get a better balance. If they’re not doing that they’re either ignorant (not stupid, ignorant...there’s a difference) or just lazy.</p><p></p><p>Remember, I’m just a guy on the internet so take this advice for what it’s worth, but I’ve been in this game a long time. Do your own research, especially for whoever you trust to do your mounting and installation, and you’ll probably have much better luck in the future.</p><p></p><p>Good luck and as always, YMMV!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="91Eunos, post: 1314809, member: 29616"] Agree...or possibly at Ford in their wheel and tire department. I’ve yet to see a factory wheel and tire with the red dot (or the yellow one depending on your preference) properly aligned over the valve stem. I’ve even seen a few pics of aftermarket wheels and tires here with the tires installed incorrectly. Don’t know if it’s because I’m coming from a racing background (bicycles, motorcycles, and Spec Miata) where attention to weight and especially rotating mass matters a lot that has me so focused on this aspect of performance, but I think there’s a reason so many people (including me) have been having issues with their stock BFGs... [B]Edit[/B]: Or maybe Raptor owners...especially those who actually take their trucks off road...are bending their rims, making them more out of round than average, even if only very slightly. Maybe BFGs are more out of round than the average tire, or the internal belt construction is such that aligning the lightest spot on the tire (yellow dot) or maximum radial runout (high spot...red dot) is more critical than on other brand tires. In general, the runout is [U]much[/U] more critical than weight (weight can be easily counter balanced), so you should always match the red dot with the low point alignment reference on your rim; unless otherwise indicated by your rim manufacturer this is the valve stem. Almost every manufacturer drills the valve stem hole at the low runout point. To be clear, modern manufacturing tolerances for wheels and tires are tight enough that this is irrelevant for 99% or more of us, but that 1% of us who have bad experiences from tolerance stacking will be very noticible by comparison. And more widely known due to forums like this one... Regardless, if your tire takes a lot of weight to balance the first thing a reputable installer will do is break the bead and spin the tire on the rim to get a better balance. If they’re not doing that they’re either ignorant (not stupid, ignorant...there’s a difference) or just lazy. Remember, I’m just a guy on the internet so take this advice for what it’s worth, but I’ve been in this game a long time. Do your own research, especially for whoever you trust to do your mounting and installation, and you’ll probably have much better luck in the future. Good luck and as always, YMMV! [/QUOTE]
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