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<blockquote data-quote="WarSurfer" data-source="post: 1088264" data-attributes="member: 1138"><p>As much as I like FoMoCo, they aren't building 2jz's, RB26s, VR38s, or any other Asian/Euro tuner powerplant. </p><p></p><p>The vehicles referenced aren't 5,500-5,800lbs and aren't spinning 35s in the dirt. Completely different load factors. Different requirements for survivability. </p><p></p><p>Race gas and **** injection is unrealistic for the average guy that wants to go on Raptor runs so we are looking at pump gas numbers at worst, e85 at best. </p><p></p><p>Lots of folks were swooning over the first gen eco and even with dual injection (custom intake), upgraded turbos, full exhaust, FMIC, piping, and e85, the limit was right at 600rwhp for the stock shortblock (in a Flex) - <a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eIMsgZgeb4M" target="_blank">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eIMsgZgeb4M</a></p><p></p><p>most tuners stay closer to 600fwhp with only DI (with ****) and that is still with a decent amount of money spent. </p><p></p><p>If Danzio has an example putting out 830hp, that is specifically designed to survive off road racing and uses MUCH better guts, it's safe to say the factory shortblock won't survive anywhere near those numbers in a similar environment. </p><p></p><p>I'm not anti-gen2 in any way, I'm being realistic based on what info is already out there. </p><p></p><p>Hennessy has a 600hp package out already and in addition to other stuff, they upgraded the turbos - does that mean you need turbos to make 600hp, of course not. I do think it's a pretty good indicator that you need more than a tune and DP for a 200hp gain.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WarSurfer, post: 1088264, member: 1138"] As much as I like FoMoCo, they aren't building 2jz's, RB26s, VR38s, or any other Asian/Euro tuner powerplant. The vehicles referenced aren't 5,500-5,800lbs and aren't spinning 35s in the dirt. Completely different load factors. Different requirements for survivability. Race gas and **** injection is unrealistic for the average guy that wants to go on Raptor runs so we are looking at pump gas numbers at worst, e85 at best. Lots of folks were swooning over the first gen eco and even with dual injection (custom intake), upgraded turbos, full exhaust, FMIC, piping, and e85, the limit was right at 600rwhp for the stock shortblock (in a Flex) - [url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eIMsgZgeb4M[/url] most tuners stay closer to 600fwhp with only DI (with ****) and that is still with a decent amount of money spent. If Danzio has an example putting out 830hp, that is specifically designed to survive off road racing and uses MUCH better guts, it's safe to say the factory shortblock won't survive anywhere near those numbers in a similar environment. I'm not anti-gen2 in any way, I'm being realistic based on what info is already out there. Hennessy has a 600hp package out already and in addition to other stuff, they upgraded the turbos - does that mean you need turbos to make 600hp, of course not. I do think it's a pretty good indicator that you need more than a tune and DP for a 200hp gain. [/QUOTE]
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