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<blockquote data-quote="GordoJay" data-source="post: 1572282" data-attributes="member: 39584"><p>This is a good point.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're actually making one of my points for me. Ford is gouging the "luxury" buyer. That's expected. It's the standard business model in the auto industry. The loaner that Ford gave me for two months was a cheap-ass shitbox. An Ecosport. It had pretty much every option(no Torsen) that comes on 802a plus hood graphics and a sunroof. My wife's Subaru has all of the same crap save the graphics. The Subaru camera is worlds better. Neither is an expensive car. None of that tech stuff is expensive to produce. It's just like the old days, when you paid a lot more for electric windows, even though they were cheaper to produce than the manual ones. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I did not realize that you had a key that would get you into the car if the battery died. My bad. A screwdriver and a pair of pliers will work, too. Probably faster. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>I'll argue that the walk away thing is a real problem. Humans are creatures of habit and run on autopilot most of the time. When your habit pattern involves turning off the ignition, getting out of the car, locking it with the remote, and pocketing your keys, a momentary distraction that breaks the cognitive chain is less likely to cause a failure because there are other links in the chain to remind you. My friend that left his car running all day in Denver isn't dumb, he's actually quite smart, even obnoxiously so. He got distracted as he exited the car, probably thinking about the tournament we were about to play. He's normally solo but had three passengers that day. Slight differences. You can call it stupidity if you want, but it's human nature. Ford didn't put that obnoxious double beep in because they felt like being ***** or because they thought customers would enjoy it, they were solving a real problem, albeit in a very clumsy way. They didn't put a timeout on how long the engine would run if you walked away because there was no problem. </p><p></p><p>The keys in the purse thing is a real issue, too, for the same reason. Human nature. Good design takes human nature into account. If we were all Spock, lots of things would be very different. Think about it. The means for starting the car are always in the car when it's running if you have a key. Now if you replaced the fob with something biometric, like a retina scanner, you'd suddenly turn a cute little toy with it's own set of drawbacks into a useful feature. Not dragging a fob or a set of keys around would actually be a real benefit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GordoJay, post: 1572282, member: 39584"] This is a good point. You're actually making one of my points for me. Ford is gouging the "luxury" buyer. That's expected. It's the standard business model in the auto industry. The loaner that Ford gave me for two months was a cheap-ass shitbox. An Ecosport. It had pretty much every option(no Torsen) that comes on 802a plus hood graphics and a sunroof. My wife's Subaru has all of the same crap save the graphics. The Subaru camera is worlds better. Neither is an expensive car. None of that tech stuff is expensive to produce. It's just like the old days, when you paid a lot more for electric windows, even though they were cheaper to produce than the manual ones. I did not realize that you had a key that would get you into the car if the battery died. My bad. A screwdriver and a pair of pliers will work, too. Probably faster. ;) I'll argue that the walk away thing is a real problem. Humans are creatures of habit and run on autopilot most of the time. When your habit pattern involves turning off the ignition, getting out of the car, locking it with the remote, and pocketing your keys, a momentary distraction that breaks the cognitive chain is less likely to cause a failure because there are other links in the chain to remind you. My friend that left his car running all day in Denver isn't dumb, he's actually quite smart, even obnoxiously so. He got distracted as he exited the car, probably thinking about the tournament we were about to play. He's normally solo but had three passengers that day. Slight differences. You can call it stupidity if you want, but it's human nature. Ford didn't put that obnoxious double beep in because they felt like being ***** or because they thought customers would enjoy it, they were solving a real problem, albeit in a very clumsy way. They didn't put a timeout on how long the engine would run if you walked away because there was no problem. The keys in the purse thing is a real issue, too, for the same reason. Human nature. Good design takes human nature into account. If we were all Spock, lots of things would be very different. Think about it. The means for starting the car are always in the car when it's running if you have a key. Now if you replaced the fob with something biometric, like a retina scanner, you'd suddenly turn a cute little toy with it's own set of drawbacks into a useful feature. Not dragging a fob or a set of keys around would actually be a real benefit. [/QUOTE]
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