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<blockquote data-quote="Snowsled" data-source="post: 1217874" data-attributes="member: 25287"><p>This is simply not true and is taking the thread into urban legend... </p><p></p><p>Pads most certainly can change your braking characteristics. They can be chosen for a different heat range which will reduce the fade the OP experienced. You can choose pads for low dust, low noise, low temps, high temps, street use, track use, there are literally hundreds of choices.</p><p></p><p>It is not a lack of clamping power causing his fade, it is heat build up. It builds up in the whole system. Pads fade, fluid boils, you lose braking power. </p><p></p><p>I think stainless lines are a plus, they will firm up the feel a little. Pad and rotor choice is pretty critical and we should be able to get decent braking with less than a full on Brembo kit. These are just my opinions. They were formed mostly on a road race track in a Porsche. On the track, which is way tougher than any street use, slotted cyro tread rotors worked the best for me. Race pads last a weekend at best so they are throw away. </p><p></p><p>I was turned off by Freedoms claims for the Centric ceramic pad they use because the main focus seemed to be on how long they last. That tells me there isn't as much friction as other pads that do not last as long. They do pan the R1 pads though, so the Centric should be a better choice. I can't help but think there is something better yet for performance. I intend to try the EBC yellow pads.</p><p></p><p>The other thing you could do after the braking system is sorted, including a fluid flush, is get some flex tubing and direct air right to the brakes for cooling. </p><p></p><p>My last car was a Cayenne turbo with six piston Brembo front calipers, some of the most powerful brakes on a production vehicle. I am having to make a big adjustment to F150 brakes...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snowsled, post: 1217874, member: 25287"] This is simply not true and is taking the thread into urban legend... Pads most certainly can change your braking characteristics. They can be chosen for a different heat range which will reduce the fade the OP experienced. You can choose pads for low dust, low noise, low temps, high temps, street use, track use, there are literally hundreds of choices. It is not a lack of clamping power causing his fade, it is heat build up. It builds up in the whole system. Pads fade, fluid boils, you lose braking power. I think stainless lines are a plus, they will firm up the feel a little. Pad and rotor choice is pretty critical and we should be able to get decent braking with less than a full on Brembo kit. These are just my opinions. They were formed mostly on a road race track in a Porsche. On the track, which is way tougher than any street use, slotted cyro tread rotors worked the best for me. Race pads last a weekend at best so they are throw away. I was turned off by Freedoms claims for the Centric ceramic pad they use because the main focus seemed to be on how long they last. That tells me there isn't as much friction as other pads that do not last as long. They do pan the R1 pads though, so the Centric should be a better choice. I can't help but think there is something better yet for performance. I intend to try the EBC yellow pads. The other thing you could do after the braking system is sorted, including a fluid flush, is get some flex tubing and direct air right to the brakes for cooling. My last car was a Cayenne turbo with six piston Brembo front calipers, some of the most powerful brakes on a production vehicle. I am having to make a big adjustment to F150 brakes... [/QUOTE]
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