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<blockquote data-quote="crouton" data-source="post: 1592907" data-attributes="member: 46156"><p>Hey guys</p><p></p><p>Little backstory you don't need to read:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>Last month I made my first post on here because I considered a brand new Raptor. I got great advice from the awesome forum members on here! Thank you so much!!</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em></em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>I got second doubts when the dealer told me it'd take 3 months (emission taxes are going to change, so it'd be an extra €13,5k (16,5k USD) for me to get it registered) + as stubborn as I was, I wanted to pay more cash and they refused. They sell like hot cakes, by the time I got home the very last model I could've bought in Europe was already gone... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>Kinda regretted not doing it, but I started to assume I'd just have to live with it. Like others have noticed, the dealership also gave me very weird vibes and was less than professional, for being the no.1 dealer in Western Europe (even <em>giving wrong information you guys corrected)</em>.</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>For fun, I searched for used Raptors near me (since the 2nd gens are only 4 years old max there aren't a lot for sale).</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em></em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em></em></p><p>BUT DAMN. I found one 1,5 hrs away from me and I have the Raptor fever again. I start drooling when I see the pictures, lol.</p><p>It's a 2018 with converted about 35k miles.</p><p>I just wanted to check with the experts on here what the differences are and whether or not it's a smart purchase?</p><p></p><p>Pro's:</p><p>- looks REALLY clean, still. Both exterior and interior (only driver's seat has normal signs of wear)</p><p>- mileage is OK, I assume</p><p>- can probably get it within 2 weeks</p><p>- I'm beyond excited I found another Raptor</p><p>- definitely nowhere near as expensive as the new one</p><p>- all-leather interior vs. the standard cloth inserts in 2020 (which another awesome member told me is a feature - but I have to admit I love the look of leather a little more, although it can be a con when it starts to show wear)</p><p>- all options already availble (tonneau, good looking mud flaps, ...)</p><p>- BiFuel</p><p>- dealership gives me a good first impression</p><p></p><p>Cons:</p><p>- still pretty expensive (trucks in general, but especially full sizes/half tons or more hold their value like crazy)</p><p>- never really bought used, maybe more risks?</p><p>- different shock set-up</p><p>- it's missing one Raptor decal on the driver's side, lol</p><p>- beadlock wheels were standard on 2020, although the regular black rims on the 2018 look really nice</p><p>- ???</p><p></p><p>edit: oh and another difference is a foot parking brake instead of electronic, but I don't really care about that (except if the 2020 parking brake was automatic, but I don't think so)</p><p></p><p>Also someone told me the cam phaser issue (which does scare me a little) was fixed in 2020. Am I more likely to run into this with a 2018? Ford doesn't cover it under recalls over here.</p><p>It has one outstanding recall for a potentional fire in a pillar somewhere.</p><p></p><p>Are the two shock set-ups very different? I'm not gonna jump it and there are no rocks to crawl here, just mud and grass my RAM can't even handle. I test drove the 2020 with orange shocks and it drove super smooth on road, over bumps, potholes, very stable at 145 kmh / 90 mph, ... Are the blue ones different in terms of smoothness?</p><p></p><p>I'm sorry for the long post again. I was just so amazed by how nice and helpful everyone was last time (on a RAM forum they call you a dumba** before you even introduced yourself). Even though I couldn't make a deal with the first dealer... I can't seem to let this go, lol.</p><p></p><p>Any advice greatly appreciated!!!!</p><p>Thank you so much! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="crouton, post: 1592907, member: 46156"] Hey guys Little backstory you don't need to read: [INDENT][I]Last month I made my first post on here because I considered a brand new Raptor. I got great advice from the awesome forum members on here! Thank you so much!! I got second doubts when the dealer told me it'd take 3 months (emission taxes are going to change, so it'd be an extra €13,5k (16,5k USD) for me to get it registered) + as stubborn as I was, I wanted to pay more cash and they refused. They sell like hot cakes, by the time I got home the very last model I could've bought in Europe was already gone... :( Kinda regretted not doing it, but I started to assume I'd just have to live with it. Like others have noticed, the dealership also gave me very weird vibes and was less than professional, for being the no.1 dealer in Western Europe (even [I]giving wrong information you guys corrected)[/I]. For fun, I searched for used Raptors near me (since the 2nd gens are only 4 years old max there aren't a lot for sale). [/I][/INDENT] BUT DAMN. I found one 1,5 hrs away from me and I have the Raptor fever again. I start drooling when I see the pictures, lol. It's a 2018 with converted about 35k miles. I just wanted to check with the experts on here what the differences are and whether or not it's a smart purchase? Pro's: - looks REALLY clean, still. Both exterior and interior (only driver's seat has normal signs of wear) - mileage is OK, I assume - can probably get it within 2 weeks - I'm beyond excited I found another Raptor - definitely nowhere near as expensive as the new one - all-leather interior vs. the standard cloth inserts in 2020 (which another awesome member told me is a feature - but I have to admit I love the look of leather a little more, although it can be a con when it starts to show wear) - all options already availble (tonneau, good looking mud flaps, ...) - BiFuel - dealership gives me a good first impression Cons: - still pretty expensive (trucks in general, but especially full sizes/half tons or more hold their value like crazy) - never really bought used, maybe more risks? - different shock set-up - it's missing one Raptor decal on the driver's side, lol - beadlock wheels were standard on 2020, although the regular black rims on the 2018 look really nice - ??? edit: oh and another difference is a foot parking brake instead of electronic, but I don't really care about that (except if the 2020 parking brake was automatic, but I don't think so) Also someone told me the cam phaser issue (which does scare me a little) was fixed in 2020. Am I more likely to run into this with a 2018? Ford doesn't cover it under recalls over here. It has one outstanding recall for a potentional fire in a pillar somewhere. Are the two shock set-ups very different? I'm not gonna jump it and there are no rocks to crawl here, just mud and grass my RAM can't even handle. I test drove the 2020 with orange shocks and it drove super smooth on road, over bumps, potholes, very stable at 145 kmh / 90 mph, ... Are the blue ones different in terms of smoothness? I'm sorry for the long post again. I was just so amazed by how nice and helpful everyone was last time (on a RAM forum they call you a dumba** before you even introduced yourself). Even though I couldn't make a deal with the first dealer... I can't seem to let this go, lol. Any advice greatly appreciated!!!! Thank you so much! :D [/QUOTE]
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