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You can't believe anything Metro Ford in OKC advertises. BS and lots of it!

I was just offered a silver 2018 802a (with 12K miles) for $55K from the local Ford dealer over the phone. I could probably get another 1K off I wanted it. I'm likely going to order a 2020 unless a super good deal on a 2019 comes up in the next couple of weeks. You can find some dealers...

Great, thanks!

Question for you guys who ordered your Raptor, does the dealership take a down payment to place the order OR do they want the entire payment up front? If so, how much down (generally)?

What disturbing to me from an engineering stand point, is why this cam phase problem hasn't been resolved. Its unbelievable this is still a problem model years later. Maybe Ford is interested in knowing the dealers will get warranty work, who knows????

American engineers don't perform the same testing the Japanese do, sad to say. I worked in the nuclear industry in Japan for 2 1/2 years so I saw first had how they conduct business. The Japanese test the piss out of everything to the "nth" degree. They won't put anything out unless its been...

You nailed it on this one, 7+ year car loans are exactly what the car dealers just love. Trained sales people are really good at finding buyers for these loans. I haven't had a car loan in over 23 years and I couldn't even imagine paying $1,000+ per month for a frickin' car/truck.

I've heard so many different stories from Ford dealers, its hard to find one to believe. I heard from one dealer they are calling other dealers who can't sell their Raptors and getting their allocation. I've heard a dealer who sells one Raptor is allotted two of them. I've also heard the story...

I agree with you but in dealer's minds its still a new truck. I would love to get one way more than $10K off but that's not going to happen.

If there are any other dealers discounting like that please the forum know. I'm ready to buy and I'd like to find an 801a and a dealer closer than Ohio (I live in New Mexico).

Awesome video, thanks for posting!

I'll be ordering an 801a SCREW after the holidays and I'm able to get the 360 camera system with that package. Do you all feel its worth it or is it a waste of money? As we all know Raptors are not exactly the size of a Ranger and getting some more help in parking could make it easier. What are...

How do you know this? There are many 2019s and now 2020s but 20K of them???

So true regarding the reliability and resale of the Toyotas. Only thing, a Raptor is a Raptor (your the big dog)! I have a GX470 and love that hell out of that vehicle. So reliable and still so nice to drive. I will keep it but at the end of the day, its not a bad ass Raptor!!

The decision is getting so much easier to buy a 2019 or 2020 when you compare the prices on a used 2017 or 2018. The price difference can't be justified when you can get a new 2019 truck with a full warranty. Strange, but dealers are sticking to their guns on used 2017 and 2018 models. I can't...

I'm not afraid of any car dealer, if they say no, who cares remember "no" is just a two letter word. Who gives a shit. Car salesmen well screw with you if they can. If you get there and feel its worth $52K, then give it and if not offer them $50K. Ever after offering $50K ask for an extended...

I look forward to hearing what OKC actually does. I'm not sure I believe anything their posting online.

Scab looks real nice in Rapid Red, dang! I'm still having a hard time deciding on a Screw or a Scab. I don't need the extra room of the Screw, but I do like the look. The Scab is a better size for me to park in my garage and drive everyday. I also like the look. Hard decision.

I'm getting close to ordering and Leadfoot was my initial choice however, rapid red is growing on me. I need to see on in person.

Looking at the available 2020s on Cars.com, Leadfoot and black are the two most colors available to buy today. I voted for leadfoot.

I was referring to the city tax, yes everybody has to pay sales tax and to every state.

I wouldn't even waste my time on any Az Ford dealer for discounts. Remember, you have to pay a city tax as well. I'm from New Mexico and can't work with any of the Az dealers. There are several Ford dealers outside Az that will discount and don't have that city tax. You'll find one, pick up the...

That's funny (over MSRP), pick up the phone and call half a dozen dealers and you'll find close to 10% off MSRP. I'm waiting until the end of the calendar year to see if Ford helps out the dealers with some incentive money. There are over 3,000 Rpators at US Ford dealers today.

Good point regarding the Linux spray in. During the final negotiations would be the best time to see if they'll throw it in. I won't be considering a 2020 because as you said, there is no reason to discount them this early. 2019 is my only hope for any end of year discounting. I'll...

Its possible there won't be any more discounts you find now vs. the end of the year. As many as you all said, Raptors do indeed hold their prices very well and it wouldn't serve Ford to drop the prices. The only thing for sure is there will still be plenty of 2019s to choose from December 21st...