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<blockquote data-quote="PAW RAPTOR" data-source="post: 1215781" data-attributes="member: 18695"><p>Info for those "that are smarter":</p><p></p><p>He's not wrong. Per Android Authority and Forbes, 2017 is the widest margin for phone prices yet in history between iPhone and Samsung. The average price of iPhones sold through 2Q 2017 is $692. The average price of Samsung phones sold in the same time is $227. That means even if Samsung did surpass iPhone slightly per volume this past qtr, the vast majority are low end phones to bring the avg price that low. </p><p></p><p>You can also see this in OS adoption rate. The newest high end Samsung phones (i.e. Note 8, S8, S8+) will be loaded with the newest software (Oreo or last year's Nougat). Currently (as of Oct 2017), Oreo adoption is only on .02 percent of Android phones (after 1 month). The older Nougat is only on 17%. That means over 80 percent have 2 years or older phones or low end phones which don't come with the top OS. So no need to belittle the guy who brought this up. What he said is empirically true.</p><p></p><p>As for contactless payments, I don't know anyone who says Apple Pay is the only one used. However, it does lead the industry. Currently Apple Pay has been adopted by 36% of vendors in the US and is accepted by more banks than any other contactless payment. That is followed by PayPal at 34%, MasterCard PayPass at 25%, Andoid Pay at 24%, Visa Checkout at 20%, and Samsung Pay at 18%. Google Wallet was out long before Apple Pay. It was just that so few people used it, it was inconsequential and not very secure. After Apple lined up the banks to fall behind it's tokenization system for contactless payments, people started using it. Google then came out with "Android Pay" which also used this system followed by Samsung with "Samsung Pay" (they could have at least come up with something a little different naming wise that wouldn't allude to Apple Pay).</p><p></p><p>As for Samsung Pay being offered at "5 times the places", I don't have the stats but you're probably right. Outside of the 18% adoption mentioned above, you can use the old magnetic strip. However by law, all merchants are to have gone to chip based systems by the end of this year. Also, by using it at a place other than an adopted place, you are not using the tokenization system but rather giving the merchant your credit card/payment info just as if you had swiped your card. You are also projecting it so someone with a scanner could intercept it (a big security reason why all machines are being mandated to go to the chip ID).<span style="color: Red"></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 9px">---------- Post added at 12:46 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:20 AM ----------</span></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"></span></p><p></p><p>Redleg, you heard wrong. Apple has not "finally incorporated retinal scan as a security sign in option." They have created face ID which puts out 30k infrared mapping dots to create a 3D image of a persons face. Unlike the face ID type system Samsung has which creates a 2D photo like representation which can be fooled by a simple photo put in front of it. The retinal scan is secure but it is much slower and clumsier to use than Face ID.</p><p></p><p>As for finger scan, a little history. On July 28, 2012, Apple bought a company named Authen Tec which had patents in fingerprint technology. On July 13, 2013, Samsung chased after what Apple was doing and purchased a company (through Synaptics) also with patents in fingerprint technology named Validity. The first phone to come out with a fingerprint scan as you said, was Moto but you had to roll your finger over the scanner and it was very hit or miss. Other companies adopted this. Apple was the first to come out with Touch ID. Shortly thereafter it was Samsung followed by others who got rid of the rolling fingerprint scan and adopted their versions of touch ID.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PAW RAPTOR, post: 1215781, member: 18695"] Info for those "that are smarter": He's not wrong. Per Android Authority and Forbes, 2017 is the widest margin for phone prices yet in history between iPhone and Samsung. The average price of iPhones sold through 2Q 2017 is $692. The average price of Samsung phones sold in the same time is $227. That means even if Samsung did surpass iPhone slightly per volume this past qtr, the vast majority are low end phones to bring the avg price that low. You can also see this in OS adoption rate. The newest high end Samsung phones (i.e. Note 8, S8, S8+) will be loaded with the newest software (Oreo or last year's Nougat). Currently (as of Oct 2017), Oreo adoption is only on .02 percent of Android phones (after 1 month). The older Nougat is only on 17%. That means over 80 percent have 2 years or older phones or low end phones which don't come with the top OS. So no need to belittle the guy who brought this up. What he said is empirically true. As for contactless payments, I don't know anyone who says Apple Pay is the only one used. However, it does lead the industry. Currently Apple Pay has been adopted by 36% of vendors in the US and is accepted by more banks than any other contactless payment. That is followed by PayPal at 34%, MasterCard PayPass at 25%, Andoid Pay at 24%, Visa Checkout at 20%, and Samsung Pay at 18%. Google Wallet was out long before Apple Pay. It was just that so few people used it, it was inconsequential and not very secure. After Apple lined up the banks to fall behind it's tokenization system for contactless payments, people started using it. Google then came out with "Android Pay" which also used this system followed by Samsung with "Samsung Pay" (they could have at least come up with something a little different naming wise that wouldn't allude to Apple Pay). As for Samsung Pay being offered at "5 times the places", I don't have the stats but you're probably right. Outside of the 18% adoption mentioned above, you can use the old magnetic strip. However by law, all merchants are to have gone to chip based systems by the end of this year. Also, by using it at a place other than an adopted place, you are not using the tokenization system but rather giving the merchant your credit card/payment info just as if you had swiped your card. You are also projecting it so someone with a scanner could intercept it (a big security reason why all machines are being mandated to go to the chip ID).[COLOR="Red"] [SIZE=1]---------- Post added at 12:46 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:20 AM ----------[/SIZE] [/COLOR] Redleg, you heard wrong. Apple has not "finally incorporated retinal scan as a security sign in option." They have created face ID which puts out 30k infrared mapping dots to create a 3D image of a persons face. Unlike the face ID type system Samsung has which creates a 2D photo like representation which can be fooled by a simple photo put in front of it. The retinal scan is secure but it is much slower and clumsier to use than Face ID. As for finger scan, a little history. On July 28, 2012, Apple bought a company named Authen Tec which had patents in fingerprint technology. On July 13, 2013, Samsung chased after what Apple was doing and purchased a company (through Synaptics) also with patents in fingerprint technology named Validity. The first phone to come out with a fingerprint scan as you said, was Moto but you had to roll your finger over the scanner and it was very hit or miss. Other companies adopted this. Apple was the first to come out with Touch ID. Shortly thereafter it was Samsung followed by others who got rid of the rolling fingerprint scan and adopted their versions of touch ID. [/QUOTE]
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