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<blockquote data-quote="Badgertits" data-source="post: 1414493" data-attributes="member: 31322"><p>Your Lexus LX570 is an overpriced, underpowered, overrated, steel bodied heavy ass SUV w/ a design dating back to '06-07, which was really only a facelift to a previous design dating back to the mid 90's for Christ's sake!!! I HOPE THEY FIGURED OUT HOW TO MAKE IT TROUBLE FREE!!! They haven't innovated a damn thing & are backing their "reliability" on aging platforms they're too scared to re-engineer for fear of losing that perceived "reliability" rep. I'm not going to argue the quality is there & they make stuff that lasts, but damn they have trouble keeping up w/ the Jones's, "what have you done for me lately" in the truck/suv dept. Toyota? NOTHING.</p><p></p><p>The thing to consider when visiting car forums, particularly ones dedicated to high performance, expensive, niche vehicles w/ cult followings like the Raptor. You get alot of gearheads who go nuts on them w/ mods and/or use basically asking for something to break only to replace/upgrade/fix & keep going, rich dudes who are used to driving Mercedes or BMW & decide they want a truck & need "the best" truck & nitpick every little thing, & vocal enthusiasts in general - so when you got a recipe like that, the "problems" become that much more amplified b/c there's just a lot more activity & vocal owners.</p><p></p><p>One of the "scariest" or most blown outta proportion issues w/ these trucks is the cam phasers - as far as I can tell while it may or may not be "common" (what is common - 5% of all trucks??) it isn't something that's going to leave you stranded or otherwise prevent you from enjoying the truck other than a rattle @ first startup - guys are driving their trucks for 1-2 months w/ the issue waiting on parts and/or diagnosis or service appt.</p><p></p><p>Ford isn't satisfied staying complacent in a super competitive segment - they're constantly upping the ante & moving the tech/power/design/efficiency/ability further ahead. With that constant R&D, redsigning/tweaking comes quirks & issues. GM & Dodge same way. Take a look @ the interior of a loaded RAM & then your LX570 you tell me which one is "luxury".....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Badgertits, post: 1414493, member: 31322"] Your Lexus LX570 is an overpriced, underpowered, overrated, steel bodied heavy ass SUV w/ a design dating back to '06-07, which was really only a facelift to a previous design dating back to the mid 90's for Christ's sake!!! I HOPE THEY FIGURED OUT HOW TO MAKE IT TROUBLE FREE!!! They haven't innovated a damn thing & are backing their "reliability" on aging platforms they're too scared to re-engineer for fear of losing that perceived "reliability" rep. I'm not going to argue the quality is there & they make stuff that lasts, but damn they have trouble keeping up w/ the Jones's, "what have you done for me lately" in the truck/suv dept. Toyota? NOTHING. The thing to consider when visiting car forums, particularly ones dedicated to high performance, expensive, niche vehicles w/ cult followings like the Raptor. You get alot of gearheads who go nuts on them w/ mods and/or use basically asking for something to break only to replace/upgrade/fix & keep going, rich dudes who are used to driving Mercedes or BMW & decide they want a truck & need "the best" truck & nitpick every little thing, & vocal enthusiasts in general - so when you got a recipe like that, the "problems" become that much more amplified b/c there's just a lot more activity & vocal owners. One of the "scariest" or most blown outta proportion issues w/ these trucks is the cam phasers - as far as I can tell while it may or may not be "common" (what is common - 5% of all trucks??) it isn't something that's going to leave you stranded or otherwise prevent you from enjoying the truck other than a rattle @ first startup - guys are driving their trucks for 1-2 months w/ the issue waiting on parts and/or diagnosis or service appt. Ford isn't satisfied staying complacent in a super competitive segment - they're constantly upping the ante & moving the tech/power/design/efficiency/ability further ahead. With that constant R&D, redsigning/tweaking comes quirks & issues. GM & Dodge same way. Take a look @ the interior of a loaded RAM & then your LX570 you tell me which one is "luxury"..... [/QUOTE]
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