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<blockquote data-quote="melvimbe" data-source="post: 1819902" data-attributes="member: 35314"><p>I don't think anybody wants a kia. They want cheap transporation, and kia provides. It's not like lottery winners go out and buy kia's.</p><p></p><p>As far a California's artificial deadlines, I think it's mostly a political show for Newsome to start positioning himself as a Presidential candidate. He can't do anything about being white, so he's got to do something else. And it's not like California hasn't had these environmental deadlines before that gets pushed back. I'm not saying EVs aren't coming in mass, but they aren't going to kill ICE off that quickly.</p><p></p><p>Do I think EV tech as saving the environment is a shame? Mostly. I think Musk had the right approach in that he saw a sweet spot in the auto market. He could sell EVs as performance/tech vehicles, get government rebates, and cut out the dealer middle man. It's just gravy if people think they are saving the planet. And I think Ford in others see the same on the EV side of things. It's about money, not environment.</p><p></p><p>I do think EVs make sense for a lot of people and needs right now, and I think battery tech will improve in energy density in charge in time to where it makes a lot more sense. I also think that a lot more could be achieved with ICE too, and it's sad that it's being abandoned. I think I'm more concerned about the price of fuel and oil based materials going up as we use it less and less gas for consumer vehicles.</p><p></p><p>The only thing that is really going to stop it is if people just stop buying EVs, which I think is entirely possible. </p><p></p><p>Also, oil companies aren't really going to be that hurt by this. If you listen to CEOs speak, they never try and control the market, they read the market and try and invest properly. The oil market has always been volatile with tons of government interference, nothing new for them. Besides, it's not really oil they sell, but energy and the transportation of said energy. You'll start seeing them buying up panel farms and windmills when it looks like a good investment, while shutting down oil related assets for tax breaks, or selling off.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="melvimbe, post: 1819902, member: 35314"] I don't think anybody wants a kia. They want cheap transporation, and kia provides. It's not like lottery winners go out and buy kia's. As far a California's artificial deadlines, I think it's mostly a political show for Newsome to start positioning himself as a Presidential candidate. He can't do anything about being white, so he's got to do something else. And it's not like California hasn't had these environmental deadlines before that gets pushed back. I'm not saying EVs aren't coming in mass, but they aren't going to kill ICE off that quickly. Do I think EV tech as saving the environment is a shame? Mostly. I think Musk had the right approach in that he saw a sweet spot in the auto market. He could sell EVs as performance/tech vehicles, get government rebates, and cut out the dealer middle man. It's just gravy if people think they are saving the planet. And I think Ford in others see the same on the EV side of things. It's about money, not environment. I do think EVs make sense for a lot of people and needs right now, and I think battery tech will improve in energy density in charge in time to where it makes a lot more sense. I also think that a lot more could be achieved with ICE too, and it's sad that it's being abandoned. I think I'm more concerned about the price of fuel and oil based materials going up as we use it less and less gas for consumer vehicles. The only thing that is really going to stop it is if people just stop buying EVs, which I think is entirely possible. Also, oil companies aren't really going to be that hurt by this. If you listen to CEOs speak, they never try and control the market, they read the market and try and invest properly. The oil market has always been volatile with tons of government interference, nothing new for them. Besides, it's not really oil they sell, but energy and the transportation of said energy. You'll start seeing them buying up panel farms and windmills when it looks like a good investment, while shutting down oil related assets for tax breaks, or selling off. [/QUOTE]
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