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<blockquote data-quote="crouton" data-source="post: 1578348" data-attributes="member: 46156"><p>Thanks guys for taking the time to reply to my crazy long post and thank you for the warm welcome!! Feel right at home!</p><p></p><p>I wrote this last night real quick because I had a test drive scheduled today. Unfortunately, they just called to tell me they don't have any Raptors left. I went to take a look a week ago, and they have all been sold and delivered by last Saturday... *Luckily* they still have a couple parked somewhere else that are on their way, and should arrive right after Christmas!</p><p></p><p>The cam phaser issue only worried me because (I think it was on this forum) I read some 19's have it as well. But good to read it's not that common! Ford seems to be a lot better at actually fixing things for the next MY. Dodge just produces the same components that are known to fail and adds a brand new year to the recall list, lol... For example: if you get a 2009 Hemi or a 2020, you know they're both gonna tick and eat through the camshaft at some point, it's actually insane.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are absolutely right. I fell in love with the Raptors in 2017 but 'didn't need one'. Now I went to look at one and he showed me a Limited first... then he tried to show me RAM's, even though I specifically told him I'd rather not spend money on a Mopar product, and how I've been treated by FCA.</p><p></p><p>I wasn't sure if he tried to help me by saying a Limited is 'better', or if they don't make good money on a Raptor. Because I 'only' really need to drive through soft mud and grass. The Limited also felt so much smaller, probably because it felt like it sat lower to the ground.</p><p>In 2019 I was on a road trip through the EU and ended up changing my oil at a dealer that had Raptors on the lot as well in Germany, and they completely bashed it for how rough it feels and other things, even though it seems like a very nice truck? So I wondered what the deal is with dealers trying to push you to something... less expensive?</p><p>Ford even tried to put me in a Ranger Raptor... I know they make a lot of profit on those, but I'm not looking for a 4 or 5 cyl diesel.</p><p></p><p>I'm considering a Raptor because it looks good, literally fell in love with it when it came out and always wanted one, I need something better than my RAM off-road and I want something special. RAM is the best sold truck so you see them everywhere...</p><p>I'd love to feel like I can go anywhere, and I think the Raptor is great for that! My RAM absolutely doesn't give me that feeling at all, after almost being stuck a few times and the ground clearance issues I've had...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thank you! I talked to Ford first (there only have 1 available in the very good looking blue, but are quite a bit more expensive and you can't go see it) and they said they ran out of stock in June, so Ford send them the very last batch of Raptors that were technically meant for Mexico. I checked multiple dealers and they indeed all say "Lobo", whereas the models I see on the road say "F150". If there's no technical difference, I don't mind.</p><p>Do you think I take the 'LOBO' badge off on the tailgate that spells FORD? Is it just glued on? Because the Lobo badge is pretty huge! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>Other than that, Ford only sells models with the "8 O 2" package, whatever that means. I snapped a pic of a VIN last week but don't think I can pull up a build sheet online (couldn't find it).</p><p></p><p>And I'm sorry, I didn't mean cloth seats, but cloth inserts. I'm not sure what that's called in English: the part that cushions you in (bolster?). The rest of the seat looks leather. Some say it's a Lobo thing, some say it's a 2020 thing?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's what I needed to hear! I need to get to my sites (usually nothing but mud) and often get there early, idle and work on my computer a little. My RAM literally can't do that because a Hemi destroys itself at idle / low oil pressure and the cherry on top of the pie is I'll get stuck.</p><p>I have a little bit of a forest behind my backyard and love to go off-road for fun as well!</p><p></p><p>The sales guy told me if you don't climb rocks or jump, there's nothing a Raptor can do that a Limited can't... but like most sales people, I don't really think he knew what he's talking about. Glad I joined this forum where people with actual knowledge and experience can teach me! So excited to go test drive one now!</p><p></p><p>Damn, I wanted to ask something else, but I forgot... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>EDIT: I remember! Is a Raptor actually truly wider mirror to mirror? The sales guy said it's 'significantly' wider, but it felt pretty similar inside. Just wider fenders. Is it really 'wider', or the same as a regular F-150? Thank you!!</p><p></p><p>Thanks dudes! You guys are truly amazing!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="crouton, post: 1578348, member: 46156"] Thanks guys for taking the time to reply to my crazy long post and thank you for the warm welcome!! Feel right at home! I wrote this last night real quick because I had a test drive scheduled today. Unfortunately, they just called to tell me they don't have any Raptors left. I went to take a look a week ago, and they have all been sold and delivered by last Saturday... *Luckily* they still have a couple parked somewhere else that are on their way, and should arrive right after Christmas! The cam phaser issue only worried me because (I think it was on this forum) I read some 19's have it as well. But good to read it's not that common! Ford seems to be a lot better at actually fixing things for the next MY. Dodge just produces the same components that are known to fail and adds a brand new year to the recall list, lol... For example: if you get a 2009 Hemi or a 2020, you know they're both gonna tick and eat through the camshaft at some point, it's actually insane. You are absolutely right. I fell in love with the Raptors in 2017 but 'didn't need one'. Now I went to look at one and he showed me a Limited first... then he tried to show me RAM's, even though I specifically told him I'd rather not spend money on a Mopar product, and how I've been treated by FCA. I wasn't sure if he tried to help me by saying a Limited is 'better', or if they don't make good money on a Raptor. Because I 'only' really need to drive through soft mud and grass. The Limited also felt so much smaller, probably because it felt like it sat lower to the ground. In 2019 I was on a road trip through the EU and ended up changing my oil at a dealer that had Raptors on the lot as well in Germany, and they completely bashed it for how rough it feels and other things, even though it seems like a very nice truck? So I wondered what the deal is with dealers trying to push you to something... less expensive? Ford even tried to put me in a Ranger Raptor... I know they make a lot of profit on those, but I'm not looking for a 4 or 5 cyl diesel. I'm considering a Raptor because it looks good, literally fell in love with it when it came out and always wanted one, I need something better than my RAM off-road and I want something special. RAM is the best sold truck so you see them everywhere... I'd love to feel like I can go anywhere, and I think the Raptor is great for that! My RAM absolutely doesn't give me that feeling at all, after almost being stuck a few times and the ground clearance issues I've had... Thank you! I talked to Ford first (there only have 1 available in the very good looking blue, but are quite a bit more expensive and you can't go see it) and they said they ran out of stock in June, so Ford send them the very last batch of Raptors that were technically meant for Mexico. I checked multiple dealers and they indeed all say "Lobo", whereas the models I see on the road say "F150". If there's no technical difference, I don't mind. Do you think I take the 'LOBO' badge off on the tailgate that spells FORD? Is it just glued on? Because the Lobo badge is pretty huge! :) Other than that, Ford only sells models with the "8 O 2" package, whatever that means. I snapped a pic of a VIN last week but don't think I can pull up a build sheet online (couldn't find it). And I'm sorry, I didn't mean cloth seats, but cloth inserts. I'm not sure what that's called in English: the part that cushions you in (bolster?). The rest of the seat looks leather. Some say it's a Lobo thing, some say it's a 2020 thing? That's what I needed to hear! I need to get to my sites (usually nothing but mud) and often get there early, idle and work on my computer a little. My RAM literally can't do that because a Hemi destroys itself at idle / low oil pressure and the cherry on top of the pie is I'll get stuck. I have a little bit of a forest behind my backyard and love to go off-road for fun as well! The sales guy told me if you don't climb rocks or jump, there's nothing a Raptor can do that a Limited can't... but like most sales people, I don't really think he knew what he's talking about. Glad I joined this forum where people with actual knowledge and experience can teach me! So excited to go test drive one now! Damn, I wanted to ask something else, but I forgot... :( EDIT: I remember! Is a Raptor actually truly wider mirror to mirror? The sales guy said it's 'significantly' wider, but it felt pretty similar inside. Just wider fenders. Is it really 'wider', or the same as a regular F-150? Thank you!! Thanks dudes! You guys are truly amazing!! [/QUOTE]
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