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<blockquote data-quote="smurfslayer" data-source="post: 1709421" data-attributes="member: 21926"><p>[USER=35543]@FordTechOne[/USER] has explained this so many times, his fingers have callouses that have callouses. The phasers with the ‘problem’ fail to park, and on a cold soak start, the engine sounds like marbles in a can. Despite the horrifying sounds, it’s relatively benign. The diagnostic / repair procedure has been posted on FRF several times, and if identified, the stealership is instructed to return the vehicle to the owner, order the parts and schedule the repair when the parts come in.</p><p></p><p>There’s zero chance Ford would permit the vehicle to be returned if there was the possibility of actual engine damage. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It <s>kind of</s> is the world’s greatest truck. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you’re talking about the Raptor’s dreaded ’normal’ mode, you’re right. The ’normal’ on the Raptor best aligns with ‘eco’ mode on the standard F150. Use Sport mode, or you could get a pedal commander which [USER=35543]@FordTechOne[/USER] and a few others hold in relatively low esteem, but I’ve been running one since ’17. It makes normal mode tolerable and more responsive. It’s adjustable and you can’t go insane with it, which some folks try to do. I use only the lower settings to basically make throttle input linear or close to it and nothing more. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I’ve never noticed this at multiple stealerships. I’ve noticed wavy panels, yes, but that’s not new. Hell, my ’01 Lightning had wavy door panels. Some may be worse than others, sure. </p><p></p><p>You have a hell of a punch list of faults. Some of them are explainable.</p><p>Phasers - initially, Ford had repair parts that weren’t successful at permanently fixing the issue. The latest revision of parts does. </p><p></p><p>Moonroof: Mine broke and internet search engines are littered with F series twin panel moonroof repair issues. Mostly it’s sticking seals which cause the opening mechanism to break. While it’s relatively easy to do this when the seals stick and it’s a pricey fix, I’d be remiss if I didn’t point out something [USER=35543]@FordTechOne[/USER] pointed out to me - you can wheel your @$$ off in the truck and that moon roof won’t break and it will still function. But, you do need to lube the seals with Ford’s expensive Krytox grease. Workaround by opening to vent first every time, then close, then move glass to the rear. </p><p></p><p>The radio and sync issues are gremlins for sure. I’ve had some weird sync and radio stuff. once in a while, I start up and sirius is updating - can’t change source, can’t change channel until it’s done. Sometimes the channel advance goes backwards instead of forward. Especially if we’re 1) stuck in traffic and 2) it’s a song I hate. Once I got a black screen and it wouldn’t go away until I shut down and let it sit overnight. never happened again. Like Tony Soprano said: “Waddayagonnado”?</p><p></p><p>It definitely sucks when you have the problems and your list is long. A bad stealership service department can definitely amplify the frustration. Find a new one if this is such an ongoing thing.</p><p></p><p>Good luck.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smurfslayer, post: 1709421, member: 21926"] [USER=35543]@FordTechOne[/USER] has explained this so many times, his fingers have callouses that have callouses. The phasers with the ‘problem’ fail to park, and on a cold soak start, the engine sounds like marbles in a can. Despite the horrifying sounds, it’s relatively benign. The diagnostic / repair procedure has been posted on FRF several times, and if identified, the stealership is instructed to return the vehicle to the owner, order the parts and schedule the repair when the parts come in. There’s zero chance Ford would permit the vehicle to be returned if there was the possibility of actual engine damage. It [S]kind of[/S] is the world’s greatest truck. If you’re talking about the Raptor’s dreaded ’normal’ mode, you’re right. The ’normal’ on the Raptor best aligns with ‘eco’ mode on the standard F150. Use Sport mode, or you could get a pedal commander which [USER=35543]@FordTechOne[/USER] and a few others hold in relatively low esteem, but I’ve been running one since ’17. It makes normal mode tolerable and more responsive. It’s adjustable and you can’t go insane with it, which some folks try to do. I use only the lower settings to basically make throttle input linear or close to it and nothing more. I’ve never noticed this at multiple stealerships. I’ve noticed wavy panels, yes, but that’s not new. Hell, my ’01 Lightning had wavy door panels. Some may be worse than others, sure. You have a hell of a punch list of faults. Some of them are explainable. Phasers - initially, Ford had repair parts that weren’t successful at permanently fixing the issue. The latest revision of parts does. Moonroof: Mine broke and internet search engines are littered with F series twin panel moonroof repair issues. Mostly it’s sticking seals which cause the opening mechanism to break. While it’s relatively easy to do this when the seals stick and it’s a pricey fix, I’d be remiss if I didn’t point out something [USER=35543]@FordTechOne[/USER] pointed out to me - you can wheel your @$$ off in the truck and that moon roof won’t break and it will still function. But, you do need to lube the seals with Ford’s expensive Krytox grease. Workaround by opening to vent first every time, then close, then move glass to the rear. The radio and sync issues are gremlins for sure. I’ve had some weird sync and radio stuff. once in a while, I start up and sirius is updating - can’t change source, can’t change channel until it’s done. Sometimes the channel advance goes backwards instead of forward. Especially if we’re 1) stuck in traffic and 2) it’s a song I hate. Once I got a black screen and it wouldn’t go away until I shut down and let it sit overnight. never happened again. Like Tony Soprano said: “Waddayagonnado”? It definitely sucks when you have the problems and your list is long. A bad stealership service department can definitely amplify the frustration. Find a new one if this is such an ongoing thing. Good luck. [/QUOTE]
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