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Math behind overlanding: Exceed truck weight limit?
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<blockquote data-quote="amREADY" data-source="post: 1484680" data-attributes="member: 36210"><p>Good discussion. To sum up and maybe reinforce a couple of points. </p><p></p><p>If you do a +3 you'll be able to carry your tent, recovery gear, misc gear and water and it will perform fine. Not the nimbleness of an unloaded truck, but not the ass dragging sag of stock either. </p><p></p><p>Some of the gear you listed I would rethink. Bedslides, drawer systems add weight, take up tons of useful space and add little utility. You can't go wrong with totes and pack squishy stuff between them. Not sure if you have access to the full rear seat area or need to leave room for 1 or 2 rear seat passengers. You can put some of your heavier gear more forward if no passengers, for example. </p><p></p><p>I hadn't used a RTT until this year and love it. I went with a small awning too, but too soon to give a report on it. However, I decided against the full 270 degree awning (even though I often camp in really rainy areas) and went with the 2000 ARB. I can add a room to it if I am taking the whole family, but usually just me and my son. The annex for the RTT will come on some trips and not on others. Same with the awning room. Or even the awning. In other words, I bring the minimum for the trip. </p><p></p><p>With my recovery gear, full loadout, including water etc., I am probably around 500 lbs. It is too heavy for the stock rear springs. It drives fine, but I can tell I've lost suspension travel and clearance. So I think I'll run it this way for a bit then do Icons or Deavers. It is also my daily, so trip loadout is the exception. </p><p></p><p>As far as the desert racer guys blowing out their bed sides, I think the rack system alleviates that to a large degree. It has to add some rigidity to the unsupported bed sides? With my tent and rack system, even on the retrax base, I see zero flex when offroading. I am not 'racing', but I am not crawling either. Brisk is probably how I would describe it. </p><p></p><p>In the attached pic, I am running full water, extra recovery gear, food for 2 weeks, ARB fridge, misc other gear and you can see the ass end is squatting down more than I'd like. It still ran fine, but rear springs are near the top of my list. </p><p></p><p><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wbE794_ZrktD9mCs2Crbas_0l5udkV4MLONno1pTrUgJ5M5dMicY-tkY1B6MZt-STKYzJjZOk3j9v8DY-sXsQA0Mpw1tZtT1t7SCh_vcfgAVKdp_3vX34wwYHjCAZmOR6oVlCX7r9s4gt0cvISQ-893aZj3vvZo3j2puZLAFxrBxd80wO6xTE8OhVyjviRwai6AxkMIij_09iamwIO5spzsYI4ZEjT9MC4g7kgE0XoKVYlGnmbigwXYF7JFTB9JwZ41pCdDOUcSN6K4GvdUqFOfY5Y5ISBrlTfepaP8A0YyQYwQO8XmVwRGJ9XdEqiFQmcBNzpcaSNigF9hAGjzt03KrbvR85QmdZ5yVw91P3Bg9bMDvsCIgd6tSxI4xMbZr5pXE3LHGZ0PVWku589penQ46iAXddxy4rt9isF7RyGWNqYIAYfAX4B9ONluX2HkqAfQswAAGv3SSab4cV71vsNJq2wGxDX_ctm2HhdAytBAirJcblhj1YsuPRTxuP565peimiQGawDpGu8JUyeGEEmrMXH7Ii73XKdxWx1L5sduTkgdtZhntcr3ON5t6m4_A8a49k1ftNwAZX3nudPnFF8VRSryESOxdvL21OI8iVFgxNuT_u2gdDROPs4boHGhOpba0rHRXfBegE4GzvBIYN3FyrCbaDQdBovhHy7bHNS3C75kwJWsfDU7B9Iz4Vw=w1291-h969-no?authuser=0" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="amREADY, post: 1484680, member: 36210"] Good discussion. To sum up and maybe reinforce a couple of points. If you do a +3 you'll be able to carry your tent, recovery gear, misc gear and water and it will perform fine. Not the nimbleness of an unloaded truck, but not the ass dragging sag of stock either. Some of the gear you listed I would rethink. Bedslides, drawer systems add weight, take up tons of useful space and add little utility. You can't go wrong with totes and pack squishy stuff between them. Not sure if you have access to the full rear seat area or need to leave room for 1 or 2 rear seat passengers. You can put some of your heavier gear more forward if no passengers, for example. I hadn't used a RTT until this year and love it. I went with a small awning too, but too soon to give a report on it. However, I decided against the full 270 degree awning (even though I often camp in really rainy areas) and went with the 2000 ARB. I can add a room to it if I am taking the whole family, but usually just me and my son. The annex for the RTT will come on some trips and not on others. Same with the awning room. Or even the awning. In other words, I bring the minimum for the trip. With my recovery gear, full loadout, including water etc., I am probably around 500 lbs. It is too heavy for the stock rear springs. It drives fine, but I can tell I've lost suspension travel and clearance. So I think I'll run it this way for a bit then do Icons or Deavers. It is also my daily, so trip loadout is the exception. As far as the desert racer guys blowing out their bed sides, I think the rack system alleviates that to a large degree. It has to add some rigidity to the unsupported bed sides? With my tent and rack system, even on the retrax base, I see zero flex when offroading. I am not 'racing', but I am not crawling either. Brisk is probably how I would describe it. In the attached pic, I am running full water, extra recovery gear, food for 2 weeks, ARB fridge, misc other gear and you can see the ass end is squatting down more than I'd like. It still ran fine, but rear springs are near the top of my list. [IMG]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wbE794_ZrktD9mCs2Crbas_0l5udkV4MLONno1pTrUgJ5M5dMicY-tkY1B6MZt-STKYzJjZOk3j9v8DY-sXsQA0Mpw1tZtT1t7SCh_vcfgAVKdp_3vX34wwYHjCAZmOR6oVlCX7r9s4gt0cvISQ-893aZj3vvZo3j2puZLAFxrBxd80wO6xTE8OhVyjviRwai6AxkMIij_09iamwIO5spzsYI4ZEjT9MC4g7kgE0XoKVYlGnmbigwXYF7JFTB9JwZ41pCdDOUcSN6K4GvdUqFOfY5Y5ISBrlTfepaP8A0YyQYwQO8XmVwRGJ9XdEqiFQmcBNzpcaSNigF9hAGjzt03KrbvR85QmdZ5yVw91P3Bg9bMDvsCIgd6tSxI4xMbZr5pXE3LHGZ0PVWku589penQ46iAXddxy4rt9isF7RyGWNqYIAYfAX4B9ONluX2HkqAfQswAAGv3SSab4cV71vsNJq2wGxDX_ctm2HhdAytBAirJcblhj1YsuPRTxuP565peimiQGawDpGu8JUyeGEEmrMXH7Ii73XKdxWx1L5sduTkgdtZhntcr3ON5t6m4_A8a49k1ftNwAZX3nudPnFF8VRSryESOxdvL21OI8iVFgxNuT_u2gdDROPs4boHGhOpba0rHRXfBegE4GzvBIYN3FyrCbaDQdBovhHy7bHNS3C75kwJWsfDU7B9Iz4Vw=w1291-h969-no?authuser=0[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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