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<blockquote data-quote="full-race geoff" data-source="post: 1362489" data-attributes="member: 6864"><p>Yes, the stock engines are stout. On my 2014 gen 1, i have 60,000 miles of twin EFR abuse. On our 2018 there is 3000 so far. If the ignition timing is not aggressive + decent fuel used, its an absolute hoot behind the wheel for a long, long time. Typical Dyno numbers are in the low to mid 500 range for a reliable stock motor setup. the powerband is so.much.fun - the dyno chart does not do it justice. Of course big turbos are not for everyone. you need to know what youre getting into and understand proper install/tune.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hi Sam, thanks for posting your thoughts. The electronic wastegates are a double edged sword. We agree its a fantastic tool for turbo shaft speed control - we're testing the OEM Raptor Electronic Wastegate actuator on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/BxSluN8Hvyu/" target="_blank">an unlimited class Pikes Peak entry this year</a>. </p><p></p><p>On one hand, you are correct these are quick and accurate - the built in position sensor allows for incredible visibility and provides valuable data. On the other hand it's extremely sensitive to any misalignment, does not yet allow for much higher boost levels and is a source of great confusion for most installers. Electronic actuation is new to the aftermarket, and the installation of the actuators can be challenging and time consuming. we've been working on a few solutions, but it takes time working with the big OEM suppliers. </p><p></p><p>That's why precision's turbos retain the actuators and basic oem turbo configuration, easier install but less top end capability than an EFR or GTX/G25 rotor group</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>correct - that is the tradeoff. lose the oem configuration, and spring pressure or external boost control is the solution. That said, it works pretty well for every other car ever - and its a BLAST to drive a big turbo raptor with pneumatic actuators</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="full-race geoff, post: 1362489, member: 6864"] Yes, the stock engines are stout. On my 2014 gen 1, i have 60,000 miles of twin EFR abuse. On our 2018 there is 3000 so far. If the ignition timing is not aggressive + decent fuel used, its an absolute hoot behind the wheel for a long, long time. Typical Dyno numbers are in the low to mid 500 range for a reliable stock motor setup. the powerband is so.much.fun - the dyno chart does not do it justice. Of course big turbos are not for everyone. you need to know what youre getting into and understand proper install/tune. Hi Sam, thanks for posting your thoughts. The electronic wastegates are a double edged sword. We agree its a fantastic tool for turbo shaft speed control - we're testing the OEM Raptor Electronic Wastegate actuator on [URL='https://www.instagram.com/p/BxSluN8Hvyu/']an unlimited class Pikes Peak entry this year[/URL]. On one hand, you are correct these are quick and accurate - the built in position sensor allows for incredible visibility and provides valuable data. On the other hand it's extremely sensitive to any misalignment, does not yet allow for much higher boost levels and is a source of great confusion for most installers. Electronic actuation is new to the aftermarket, and the installation of the actuators can be challenging and time consuming. we've been working on a few solutions, but it takes time working with the big OEM suppliers. That's why precision's turbos retain the actuators and basic oem turbo configuration, easier install but less top end capability than an EFR or GTX/G25 rotor group correct - that is the tradeoff. lose the oem configuration, and spring pressure or external boost control is the solution. That said, it works pretty well for every other car ever - and its a BLAST to drive a big turbo raptor with pneumatic actuators [/QUOTE]
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