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<blockquote data-quote="Badgertits" data-source="post: 1572316" data-attributes="member: 31322"><p>the one that was totaled I owned outright & pretty much same thing w/ this new ‘20....not sure how many members here driving an 802a equipped truck or otherwise can say that...so it’s not about the cost per se, it’s just the principle.</p><p></p><p>im not a huge guy so I never had that issue w/ the side bolsters on my seats- although that is a point worth noting, what’s also worth noting is for ME- being an active guy who will be getting in/out of the thing sweaty & dirty, have a Doberman riding w/ me along w/ a 1 & 5 year old - the 1 year old likes to throw his bottle around when he’s done, get some drops of formula on leather bolster not nearly as nasty as on cloth, I only have like 550 miles on the thing but I can imagine when it comes time to give it a full interior cleaning it’ll be interesting dealing w/ the seats- I hope whatever leather cleaner/conditioner I use doesn’t leave any stain/residue on the cloth portion, it just adds another step.....come to think of it I’ll probably give the cloth portions a spray down in some silicone protectant which should help.</p><p></p><p>i totally get manufacturers making customers pay up to attain certain luxury/tech/utility features, but in 2020 having memory seat function in a vehicle should be standard- particularly an extremely large vehicle like this (so obvi more room/need for adjustment in seating position vs a civic) w/ an already hefty price tag & seats that are already “premium” to begin with & when they already have the option to be adjusted a million ways including the pedals- on GM trucks @ the “mid level” equipment trims this would be standard.</p><p></p><p>all that being said- the biggest positive I can point out IMO again is what seems to be a much better/glossier/heavier coating to the frame (my 18 it seemed much thinner & matte finish) & tow hooks etc + the bigger gauge screen.</p><p></p><p>I just don’t like push button start in most vehicles- period. Just like I don’t like automatic transmissions in performance cars, period. I’m fully aware auto & dual clutch setups can be/are faster - but ain’t gonna change my personal preference. </p><p></p><p>As much as I liked a lot of the interior features, luxury, ride, etc. of the Ram trucks - I hated the rotary dial shifter big time. Complete turn off/show stopper for me. Again- just personal preference & im sure people can make plenty of cases for or against it- but I’m spending my own $70k not someone else’s lol!</p><p></p><p>side note- I REALLY like the feature on the new 21 F150s where the shifter can fold down into the console allowing for the center armrest to fold open flat against it for a mini work table/surface. THAT is a perfect example of the antithesis of tech for tech’s sake- as opposed to the Rams shifter quirk that does nothing whatsoever to make my life/driving experience more pleasurable (in fact it does the opposite) ford offers a shifter redesign w/ a very clear purpose/advantage over competitors while also offering a nice looking solid feeling traditional shifter I can still rest my hand on while cruising.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Badgertits, post: 1572316, member: 31322"] the one that was totaled I owned outright & pretty much same thing w/ this new ‘20....not sure how many members here driving an 802a equipped truck or otherwise can say that...so it’s not about the cost per se, it’s just the principle. im not a huge guy so I never had that issue w/ the side bolsters on my seats- although that is a point worth noting, what’s also worth noting is for ME- being an active guy who will be getting in/out of the thing sweaty & dirty, have a Doberman riding w/ me along w/ a 1 & 5 year old - the 1 year old likes to throw his bottle around when he’s done, get some drops of formula on leather bolster not nearly as nasty as on cloth, I only have like 550 miles on the thing but I can imagine when it comes time to give it a full interior cleaning it’ll be interesting dealing w/ the seats- I hope whatever leather cleaner/conditioner I use doesn’t leave any stain/residue on the cloth portion, it just adds another step.....come to think of it I’ll probably give the cloth portions a spray down in some silicone protectant which should help. i totally get manufacturers making customers pay up to attain certain luxury/tech/utility features, but in 2020 having memory seat function in a vehicle should be standard- particularly an extremely large vehicle like this (so obvi more room/need for adjustment in seating position vs a civic) w/ an already hefty price tag & seats that are already “premium” to begin with & when they already have the option to be adjusted a million ways including the pedals- on GM trucks @ the “mid level” equipment trims this would be standard. all that being said- the biggest positive I can point out IMO again is what seems to be a much better/glossier/heavier coating to the frame (my 18 it seemed much thinner & matte finish) & tow hooks etc + the bigger gauge screen. I just don’t like push button start in most vehicles- period. Just like I don’t like automatic transmissions in performance cars, period. I’m fully aware auto & dual clutch setups can be/are faster - but ain’t gonna change my personal preference. As much as I liked a lot of the interior features, luxury, ride, etc. of the Ram trucks - I hated the rotary dial shifter big time. Complete turn off/show stopper for me. Again- just personal preference & im sure people can make plenty of cases for or against it- but I’m spending my own $70k not someone else’s lol! side note- I REALLY like the feature on the new 21 F150s where the shifter can fold down into the console allowing for the center armrest to fold open flat against it for a mini work table/surface. THAT is a perfect example of the antithesis of tech for tech’s sake- as opposed to the Rams shifter quirk that does nothing whatsoever to make my life/driving experience more pleasurable (in fact it does the opposite) ford offers a shifter redesign w/ a very clear purpose/advantage over competitors while also offering a nice looking solid feeling traditional shifter I can still rest my hand on while cruising. [/QUOTE]
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