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Four Wheeler: 10 reasons Raptor better than TRX
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<blockquote data-quote="GordoJay" data-source="post: 1551883" data-attributes="member: 39584"><p>I agree in general, but as I think about this I realize that if Ford decides to compromise other aspects of the Raptor to get more horsepower than RAM, or to make it bigger than the RAM, the truck won't be better. Any design is a set of trade offs. You can't optimize one specification without compromising others. A good design has a optimal balance of features. The only reason that the RAM might be OK is that they started with a Raptor spec sheet and tried to incrementally "beat" all of the specs one at a time, no matter how silly it would look and how it would affect performance. Other than the horsepower, I call what they did totally lame. </p><p></p><p>V8 with massive hp? Check. </p><p>100lb more towing capacity? Check </p><p>A few percent more payload? Check</p><p>A couple tenths of an inch more ground clearance? Check </p><p>Bigger - wider, taller, longer - an inch or two in every dimension? Check</p><p>Bigger wheels? Check</p><p>Slightly bigger tires? Check</p><p></p><p>Seriously - does anyone except the autistic kid in the back of the room care about most of this stuff? Making the truck bigger and heavier will not improve off road performance. I'll argue that 700hp will not be usable off road without replacing the entire suspension. The hit to range is a huge loss when you go far off pavement. So RAM took a well balanced design and unbalanced it by throwing a blown V8 in it. Another thing that bugs me is that the TRX doesn't stand apart from the rest of the product line. That costs money and RAM seems to be trying to do this on the cheap. That's not a good sign. I'll bet they don't spend the money to actually race it off road and find the weaknesses either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GordoJay, post: 1551883, member: 39584"] I agree in general, but as I think about this I realize that if Ford decides to compromise other aspects of the Raptor to get more horsepower than RAM, or to make it bigger than the RAM, the truck won't be better. Any design is a set of trade offs. You can't optimize one specification without compromising others. A good design has a optimal balance of features. The only reason that the RAM might be OK is that they started with a Raptor spec sheet and tried to incrementally "beat" all of the specs one at a time, no matter how silly it would look and how it would affect performance. Other than the horsepower, I call what they did totally lame. V8 with massive hp? Check. 100lb more towing capacity? Check A few percent more payload? Check A couple tenths of an inch more ground clearance? Check Bigger - wider, taller, longer - an inch or two in every dimension? Check Bigger wheels? Check Slightly bigger tires? Check Seriously - does anyone except the autistic kid in the back of the room care about most of this stuff? Making the truck bigger and heavier will not improve off road performance. I'll argue that 700hp will not be usable off road without replacing the entire suspension. The hit to range is a huge loss when you go far off pavement. So RAM took a well balanced design and unbalanced it by throwing a blown V8 in it. Another thing that bugs me is that the TRX doesn't stand apart from the rest of the product line. That costs money and RAM seems to be trying to do this on the cheap. That's not a good sign. I'll bet they don't spend the money to actually race it off road and find the weaknesses either. [/QUOTE]
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