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<blockquote data-quote="Raptor Paradise" data-source="post: 1885864" data-attributes="member: 53879"><p>I'm looking for input from others and alternative perspectives to help mitigate the ADM barrier in my mind... TLDR is that I'm personally feeling indignant with respect to the entitlement that dealers have to the lions share of economics without actually having to create much value. Also, Gary Yeoman Ford is a very tragic dealership.</p><p></p><p>Background: ~90k miles driven over 2 raptors</p><p>I have a July 18th order and I'm apparently #2 in line for an R (I was 3rd and one has been delivered). My dealer has told me that they are open to rolling my order to '24 and keeping my spot. They are a high volume dealer and I've agreed to $10k mark-up. If I stick on this track, it's likely a '24 delivery in my book.</p><p></p><p>Last week:</p><p>I tried my hand the last week completely scouring the internet in an attempt to secure an "R" and managed to get a single dealer to come down to $30k mark-up + my 37 PP trade, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it (truck has since sold). I recognize that this is the best out of the lot, I found 2 others that were $150k, and I will happily throw GARY YEOMAN Ford under the bus for the text message exchange with a $200k quote and a defensive salesman that told me I don't understand the market. (1 truck @ $140k, 2 trucks @ $150k, 3 trucks 155k-165k,1 truck $200k)</p><p></p><p>Takeaway:</p><p>Anyone else fatigued by fighting the good fight and not lining the pockets of these dealers that are taking full advantage of the market? I find it ridiculous that an entity which paid $0 in R&D, and less than MSRP feels entitled to 70%-100% margins on a truck that Ford is getting MAYBE 20% margin on. The middle man is reaping 80% of the economic benefit of this truck, which required hundreds of millions of dollars and years of investment by Ford. On principle I can't pay the insane ADMs ($20k is where I've drawn the line in my head)... but I've been idolizing a modern v8 raptor for 6-7 years now and I'm getting very, VERY desperate. There are a lot of great dealerships that I see on this forum that give me some hope.</p><p></p><p>PS:</p><p>It helps that I love my current Raptor 37pp and I know there are still a lot of people trying to get one at MSRP (I was extremely fortunate to be one of those on Oct '21 when I took delivery). Trying to not lose perspective on what I'm grateful for.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raptor Paradise, post: 1885864, member: 53879"] I'm looking for input from others and alternative perspectives to help mitigate the ADM barrier in my mind... TLDR is that I'm personally feeling indignant with respect to the entitlement that dealers have to the lions share of economics without actually having to create much value. Also, Gary Yeoman Ford is a very tragic dealership. Background: ~90k miles driven over 2 raptors I have a July 18th order and I'm apparently #2 in line for an R (I was 3rd and one has been delivered). My dealer has told me that they are open to rolling my order to '24 and keeping my spot. They are a high volume dealer and I've agreed to $10k mark-up. If I stick on this track, it's likely a '24 delivery in my book. Last week: I tried my hand the last week completely scouring the internet in an attempt to secure an "R" and managed to get a single dealer to come down to $30k mark-up + my 37 PP trade, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it (truck has since sold). I recognize that this is the best out of the lot, I found 2 others that were $150k, and I will happily throw GARY YEOMAN Ford under the bus for the text message exchange with a $200k quote and a defensive salesman that told me I don't understand the market. (1 truck @ $140k, 2 trucks @ $150k, 3 trucks 155k-165k,1 truck $200k) Takeaway: Anyone else fatigued by fighting the good fight and not lining the pockets of these dealers that are taking full advantage of the market? I find it ridiculous that an entity which paid $0 in R&D, and less than MSRP feels entitled to 70%-100% margins on a truck that Ford is getting MAYBE 20% margin on. The middle man is reaping 80% of the economic benefit of this truck, which required hundreds of millions of dollars and years of investment by Ford. On principle I can't pay the insane ADMs ($20k is where I've drawn the line in my head)... but I've been idolizing a modern v8 raptor for 6-7 years now and I'm getting very, VERY desperate. There are a lot of great dealerships that I see on this forum that give me some hope. PS: It helps that I love my current Raptor 37pp and I know there are still a lot of people trying to get one at MSRP (I was extremely fortunate to be one of those on Oct '21 when I took delivery). Trying to not lose perspective on what I'm grateful for. [/QUOTE]
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