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Dyno Results: MPT + CR Stage 4 Turbos
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<blockquote data-quote="jrm" data-source="post: 1549627" data-attributes="member: 42695"><p>Cha-ching, 530.6 RWP and 496.9 Torque. It is fast, and Mike and I spoke about keeping the low-end torque from going too high, which is the case. I can run it with up to E30 for about a 20HP gain without risk or need for HPFP. </p><p></p><p>Working with Mike at MPT was a real pleasure. He spent A LOT of time really dialing in this truck, since the CR manifolds and turbos are quite new and I think he was genuinely curious. I feel very confident that he got the curves as perfectly dialed in as they could be and didn't want to push the engine past it limits. </p><p></p><p>We first did 4 iterations of emailed tunes after data-logging before going on the dyno. On those last emailed tunes the numbers were 470.5 and 479.8. Before the turbos and manifolds were installed I had it dynoed and tuned by the wonderful Tony at Tuners Inc in JAX (around 430?). But since I think his bread and butter are coyote engines, I took up the advice of posters in this forum to try MPT. </p><p></p><p>I know people like goosetuned and MPT, and I can speak as highly as I could of MPT. </p><p></p><p>'19 Raptor, 48k miles, Roush CAI, tubes, Whipple intercooler (probably not the best choice), a thermostat, down pipes, cutbacks, a turbo adapter, CR Performance manifolds and turbos. </p><p></p><p>I initially was thinking 5star would provide the tune, but after calling 50 times with no answer, unanswered emails, no returns to any messages, even when my car was in shutdown mode (and I thought the car could blow up) after they sold me a faulty throttle body, I determined that with a more sophisticated setup with turbos, that they were not prepared (or willing) to do a good job. This was after I've spent like 5k on aftermarket stuff from them. I have heard other people have had similar problems and gave the owner an earful, and hopefully they can dramatically improve things. I'm still out $ from them (no working tunes, shipping back broken products, install labor).</p><p></p><p>I still know that the tune is primary, but now am becoming more of the opinion that all the CAI, intercooler, etc... really ONLY shine with new turbos. The only next thing would be full e85, a new HPFP and a new RMB short block. The wifey will nix that idea!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jrm, post: 1549627, member: 42695"] Cha-ching, 530.6 RWP and 496.9 Torque. It is fast, and Mike and I spoke about keeping the low-end torque from going too high, which is the case. I can run it with up to E30 for about a 20HP gain without risk or need for HPFP. Working with Mike at MPT was a real pleasure. He spent A LOT of time really dialing in this truck, since the CR manifolds and turbos are quite new and I think he was genuinely curious. I feel very confident that he got the curves as perfectly dialed in as they could be and didn't want to push the engine past it limits. We first did 4 iterations of emailed tunes after data-logging before going on the dyno. On those last emailed tunes the numbers were 470.5 and 479.8. Before the turbos and manifolds were installed I had it dynoed and tuned by the wonderful Tony at Tuners Inc in JAX (around 430?). But since I think his bread and butter are coyote engines, I took up the advice of posters in this forum to try MPT. I know people like goosetuned and MPT, and I can speak as highly as I could of MPT. '19 Raptor, 48k miles, Roush CAI, tubes, Whipple intercooler (probably not the best choice), a thermostat, down pipes, cutbacks, a turbo adapter, CR Performance manifolds and turbos. I initially was thinking 5star would provide the tune, but after calling 50 times with no answer, unanswered emails, no returns to any messages, even when my car was in shutdown mode (and I thought the car could blow up) after they sold me a faulty throttle body, I determined that with a more sophisticated setup with turbos, that they were not prepared (or willing) to do a good job. This was after I've spent like 5k on aftermarket stuff from them. I have heard other people have had similar problems and gave the owner an earful, and hopefully they can dramatically improve things. I'm still out $ from them (no working tunes, shipping back broken products, install labor). I still know that the tune is primary, but now am becoming more of the opinion that all the CAI, intercooler, etc... really ONLY shine with new turbos. The only next thing would be full e85, a new HPFP and a new RMB short block. The wifey will nix that idea! [/QUOTE]
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