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<blockquote data-quote="cayenne" data-source="post: 1277735" data-attributes="member: 7218"><p>Yes, you have solid experience. Your shop has a good great reputation... Not debating that, I'm not a master tech, I'm just the guy that has written code for sectors of the OEM ECU applications, I know what the Euro world is looking at, but not sure about Ford. What the BMW dealer can see at the local level by examining the DTC and what Germany has access to through FASTA data or embedded log files are completely different.</p><p></p><p>Everything is a "maybe" and that is why you have to play. Just like you said, it depends on the level you are concerned about. That's why I asked if we knew what Ford logs. </p><p></p><p>I've been messing with the Burger products since the N54 days, even with the old JB+ products. The one thing I'm going to challenge is that the boost logs aren't seeing increased boost. Piggybacks are the best route to leave little to no trace, but when you are dealing with a turbo car, you are getting performance increase based on increased boost. I've never seen where Burger has stated that they are forcing or overwriting false/lower boost signal back into the embedded log files. That would be the only way to mask that you are running higher boost.</p><p></p><p>I have seen on the F chassis BMW where the log is recording boost above the threshold when a piggyback was used, it's just a risk that is there and we all have to be aware of.<strong> At the end of the day how this behaves on the BMW is likely irrelevant, I was inquiring how much we knew about the Ford derivative.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cayenne, post: 1277735, member: 7218"] Yes, you have solid experience. Your shop has a good great reputation... Not debating that, I'm not a master tech, I'm just the guy that has written code for sectors of the OEM ECU applications, I know what the Euro world is looking at, but not sure about Ford. What the BMW dealer can see at the local level by examining the DTC and what Germany has access to through FASTA data or embedded log files are completely different. Everything is a "maybe" and that is why you have to play. Just like you said, it depends on the level you are concerned about. That's why I asked if we knew what Ford logs. I've been messing with the Burger products since the N54 days, even with the old JB+ products. The one thing I'm going to challenge is that the boost logs aren't seeing increased boost. Piggybacks are the best route to leave little to no trace, but when you are dealing with a turbo car, you are getting performance increase based on increased boost. I've never seen where Burger has stated that they are forcing or overwriting false/lower boost signal back into the embedded log files. That would be the only way to mask that you are running higher boost. I have seen on the F chassis BMW where the log is recording boost above the threshold when a piggyback was used, it's just a risk that is there and we all have to be aware of.[B] At the end of the day how this behaves on the BMW is likely irrelevant, I was inquiring how much we knew about the Ford derivative.[/B] [/QUOTE]
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