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Pretty sure they want it to be an option, since it isn't always desired by folks based on their intended build.

I came in here looking for actual numbers.

801A here, $55K was my hard limit on buying any truck, and the 801 let me stay there. I can live without a majority of the 802 features.

It's going to sound like one hell of a pissed of Subaru. The good news? It's not a Subaru :)

Sounds like you've been talking to a dealer, ignore them. :)

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I'm curious what are the make or break numbers for you with HP, Torque and Towing? Are you worried it's less than the GEN1?

Just something to break, leak, forget open, and it's also very noisy. I prefer the extra head room and silence for a solid roof. :)

Probably best to disable the nannies for that.

Never buy extended warranties, until I need them. Which in the case of Mustangs and Raptors is never. I will void them more than likely after the factory warranty, if it breaks it is upgrade time. On the other cars, if I happen to keep it past the factory warranty, I will shop around for an...

It's between aug and nov :)

That answer from the zone manager would make sense if the question was to get a VIN. DORAs happen when the truck goes in the order bank which is happening now.

Still going to use the ignore list?

Who's fault was that? :ROFLJest:

Yes they will.

I lost my drink through my nose just now. Thank ADD!

I support both....

The dealer has to put up with the service crap that the manufacturer creates too. It's very much a two way street. Also, the manufacturer doesn't have time to play with the short term market changes in pricing. They have inventory and parts to move. The manufacturer is reaping just fine.

http://www.fordraptorforum.com/f260/raptor-dealers-selling-near-invoice-gen-2-a-49138/

Scheduling isn't supposed to begin until 8/25. I would take it with a grain of salt.

They are getting more than six Raptors, I guarantee it.

Software update won't be enough to make these driverless. A whole of extra hardware will be needed to support that type of driving. I also don't really see it being worth it on the Raptor. Just gets in the way of off roading and additional hardware to support excursions. :)

It is 802A only. New speakers will be first on my list of things to fiddle with.

It has leather seats. 801A - Heated Leather Seats 802A - Heated and Cooled Leather Seats

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