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BDRAG,

FYI, it looks like you upset someone in the legislature because they re-wrote the 2012 law just for you... :waytogo:

A Texas law passed on the frantic final day of the legislative session mistakenly omitted the $200 fine for driving a vehicle without license plates, possibly jeopardizing the enforcement of related laws including a ban on false, altered or obscured license plates.

The author of the bill, Rep. Joe Pickett, has asked the attorney general's office to determine whether the omission will be a problem when the new law takes effect Jan. 1.

House Bill 2357, approved in May, divided motor vehicle violations into individual chapters as part of an effort to reorganize and modernize much of the Texas Transportation Code. Each chapter included the penalty for violations, eliminating the need to hunt through the voluminous code for punishment information.

But the 234-page bill inadvertently dropped language setting a $200 fine from the chapter outlawing the operation of vehicles without license plates, Pickett said.

"It was just a very huge, detailed bill that we'd already rewritten three, four, five times," Pickett, D-El Paso, said Tuesday. "This wasn't a first draft. We made so many corrections and changes, we thought we caught everything."

Texas has required vehicles to have two license plates, displayed on the front and back, since 1934. The misdemeanor offense can bring a fine of up to $200, though drivers who quickly correct the problem can pay a $10 fee instead.

Pickett's letter to Attorney General Greg Abbott, written with help from lawyers with the Department of Motor Vehicles, argued that the $200 penalty can be implied by the way the law was written. In addition, Texas law does not require the penalty to be included when the offense is clearly explained, Pickett wrote.

Ruling otherwise on the license plate law, Pickett warned, would produce absurd, perhaps dangerous, results.

If there is no penalty, law officers could not properly enforce a statute designed to quickly identify vehicles engaged in possibly criminal activity, Pickett wrote.

License plates also allow officers to verify that vehicles have been properly registered, placing the enforcement of registration-related laws in doubt as well, he wrote.

Finally, the law's soon-to-be-created chapter on license plates includes other violations that also could be placed in doubt — including offenses related to antique-vehicle license plates and operating a vehicle with fake, altered or obscured plates, Pickett wrote.

Abbott's office has six months to issue opinions, which are meant to clarify points of law.

The new law, however, takes effect in less than two months, raising the possibility that it will have to be enforced for a time without the legal questions answered.

The revenue impact of losing the fine could not be determined Tuesday.

If a legislative fix is required, the next session doesn't begin until January 2013, though Gov. Rick Perry could call a special session if a correction is needed badly enough.

Despite his warnings to Abbott, however, Pickett downplayed potential problems in an interview Tuesday.

Driving without two license plates will remain illegal, he said, making it a poor strategy for anyone hoping to avoid detection while committing a crime.

"It doesn't matter if there's a fine or not, it's still illegal, and you'll still be pulled over," Pickett said. "If there are other issues going on, why would you want to bring attention to yourself?"
 

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In Missouri, discontinuing the front plate is up for debate. I have a light bar, so I zip tied my plate to the lower grill.
 

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throw it on the dash!! as long as its visible right? Simple solution
 

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I don't know if you Texas guys remember but, I think there were pretty strong efforts in 2005 and 2007 to drop the front LP requirement but, the bills died before they ever got to the floor. A custom plate can go a long way. I tried to get "Veloci" (i.e. veloci-raptor)but, another Raptor owner who works/parks in the same building as me got there first.
 

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I've lived in Texas for 10 years, and have never run a front plate. I've been stopped more times than I can remember, and it's never even been mentioned.

Courtesy and respect to officers will go a long way when you're pulled over.
 

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12 years and over 20 different vehicles in Texas and not one of them ever had a front license plate. During that time I have resided in Houston, Austin, and Dallas and I have never had it mentioned to me by an officer. The only time it ever came up was in a forum like this. If i ever do run into a problem I will play dumb and act as if I had no clue and that it must have fallen off.
 

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I've lived in Texas for 10 years, and have never run a front plate. I've been stopped more times than I can remember, and it's never even been mentioned.

Courtesy and respect to officers will go a long way when you're pulled over.

12 years and over 20 different vehicles in Texas and not one of them ever had a front license plate. During that time I have resided in Houston, Austin, and Dallas and I have never had it mentioned to me by an officer. The only time it ever came up was in a forum like this. If i ever do run into a problem I will play dumb and act as if I had no clue and that it must have fallen off.

My dad ran without one on his '05 Porsche Boxster S. Ticketed driving to work one morning.

He also ran without on on his Lexus GS350...got a ticket in downtown Houston.

My neighbor had a Jaguar XKR back in the day and she got one 5 minutes from our houses.

All of these occurred in the Houston area.
 

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My dad ran without one on his '05 Porsche Boxster S. Ticketed driving to work one morning.

He also ran without on on his Lexus GS350...got a ticket in downtown Houston.

My neighbor had a Jaguar XKR back in the day and she got one 5 minutes from our houses.

All of these occurred in the Houston area.

Harris county sucks!
 
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I think it is interesting that they are concerned about the loss of "revenue" if they can't issue a ticket.....wonder how much money they are talking about losing?

If they are talking about enough to balance the budget then I take back everything. :shakehead:
 
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