Motor Failure with no warning!

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TexasTexas95

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I have a 2013 Raptor Screw with 51,000 miles on it. Fresh off an oil change that I almost always do before the truck reminds me to do anyway. Last Friday, I was cruising downtown Austin dropping a friend off at a hotel when the truck started shaking pretty violently when I tried to accelerate. RPM's were only high enough to keep the truck started but you had to really give it some gas to go. Exhaust sounded weird and there was a slight sulphur smell also. I'm thinking "Ok, I know we got a lot of rain this weekend, maybe I put bad fuel in the tank and it's got water in the fuel." But I drove about 100 miles since using "suspected" gas station with zero issues. Prior to this incident, my truck has run without a hiccup. Never has she skipped a beat. Boom, that fast she shakes, CEL comes on and I'm stranded.
I thought for sure this was going to be an insurance claim with water in the fuel or something. Next day, Ford calls me up and says things look bad, can we do a tear down to see what the problem is? I say sure, whatever. But asked him before he does all that, did you make sure it wasn't a "water in the fuel" issue and he said "yea, it's definitely not water in the fuel but with all the flooding lately, we need to tear into the motor and see if your truck was submerged under water" I said ok, no big deal. Dealer calls me back and says he has bad news. Going to have to replace the whole motor. Cylinder 2 has low compression and the mechanic noticed some scoring and piston slap here and there in cyl 3 and 5 also. Not a water issue of any kind. All covered under my warranty but has anyone else had a similar experience? I not once doubted this motor, never ever. I was stranded in less than two minutes technically. I don't abuse my motors or rag on them, but at the same time, I'm not afraid to get it up and go. My miles are nearly all highway since I travel long distances. Anyhow, thought I'd share and see if anyone else has some insight. What should I make sure the dealer does so they do this right? Should I trust them to get my truck to 100% perfect like before? It's a big dealership. Maxwell Ford in Austin, Texas. I have had poor experiences there before but mainly on the sales side. Their service department has been stellar so far.
 

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Long as they have a quality mechanic working on it you should be good. We just had a cool video posted on FB by a ford tech we know that comes out to events of him doing a new motor build for a customer where cyl 8 lost compression due to a blown head gasket. They do not have full long blocks for the 6.2l so you should be getting a new shortblock that the tech will have to build into a complete longblock.

From what you are stating my bet is the oil pump failed and that lead to the cyl damage.
 

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I have a 2013 Raptor Screw with 51,000 miles on it. Fresh off an oil change that I almost always do before the truck reminds me to do anyway. Last Friday, I was cruising downtown Austin dropping a friend off at a hotel when the truck started shaking pretty violently when I tried to accelerate. RPM's were only high enough to keep the truck started but you had to really give it some gas to go. Exhaust sounded weird and there was a slight sulphur smell also. I'm thinking "Ok, I know we got a lot of rain this weekend, maybe I put bad fuel in the tank and it's got water in the fuel." But I drove about 100 miles since using "suspected" gas station with zero issues. Prior to this incident, my truck has run without a hiccup. Never has she skipped a beat. Boom, that fast she shakes, CEL comes on and I'm stranded.
I thought for sure this was going to be an insurance claim with water in the fuel or something. Next day, Ford calls me up and says things look bad, can we do a tear down to see what the problem is? I say sure, whatever. But asked him before he does all that, did you make sure it wasn't a "water in the fuel" issue and he said "yea, it's definitely not water in the fuel but with all the flooding lately, we need to tear into the motor and see if your truck was submerged under water" I said ok, no big deal. Dealer calls me back and says he has bad news. Going to have to replace the whole motor. Cylinder 2 has low compression and the mechanic noticed some scoring and piston slap here and there in cyl 3 and 5 also. Not a water issue of any kind. All covered under my warranty...

It sounds like your dealer is hard at work on this, TexasTexas95. I'd like to alert your regional customer service manager (CSM) so they can ensure things continue to go smoothly. To get started, PM me your full name, best daytime phone number, VIN, current mileage, and servicing dealer. I'll escalate this to your CSM and have them give you a call.

Crystal
 

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The bigger question is what caused the failure? Make sure they can explained what happened and then share the findings with the FRF. Good luck I am sure they'll get it right
 

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I just lost the #3 cylinder on my 2014 Raptor. 19,000 highway miles. Stranded in South Florida. Interested to hear if the cause was diagnosed on your truck yet. I have been given no time frame for the repair....

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I just lost the #3 cylinder on my 2014 Raptor. 19,000 highway miles. Stranded in South Florida. Interested to hear if the cause was diagnosed on your truck yet. I have been given no time frame for the repair....
 

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I just lost the #3 cylinder on my 2014 Raptor. 19,000 highway miles. Stranded in South Florida. Interested to hear if the cause was diagnosed on your truck yet. I have been given no time frame for the repair...

Welcome to the forum, rocgrouprhett. Let's see what I can do to get you back on the road again. Send me a private message (PM) with your full name, best daytime phone number, VIN, current mileage, and servicing dealership. I'll get to work.

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Engine Failure

So with my limited understanding of engines, here is the case so far. Cylinder 2 lost compression and there was scoring and piston slap evidence on that side of the motor. Since the other side of the motor appears to be fine, this will be a short block install vs. a complete long block. Apparently, and according to the dealer, short blocks are on back order and won't even be here till November 24. This is two additional weeks than I was initially told so I'm stuck in a little rental car till then which is hurting my business since I have to have a truck. I wish something could be done about that. Here is the truck as she sits now.



Apparently, this isn't a common issue and until the techs are able to get under the piston, they won't be able to determine the root cause of the issue?? All very interesting at this point but should I be worried that I'm only getting the short block replaced and not a new long block? Or is this essentially just as good?
 

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Wow.. They did not pull the motor to tear it down. That is strike 1 in my book.

But they do not have 6.2L longblocks available so it will be a shortblock build. Now if the head gaskets were fine then your heads should also be fine. You should be getting new VCT units as I am sure there are metal shavings in the oil. while the heads are off I would want them to check all the valve seals and such.
 

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Short block is the lower half of the block with no heads, long block includes heads.
 
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