Raptor Embroidery
aka <b><font color='darkorange'>Raptor_Al_41</font
Hey guys,
I'm taking my truck to Ford tomorrow to have my issues seen about. I basically want to avoid the Dealership giving me the run-around on everything and ending up having to pay more than I should.
First off, here are my specs:
2011 Raptor, 113k miles, transmission flush performed by dealership every 50k miles, 5 star 93 octane tune since 10k miles. No check engine lights whatsoever for either problem.
Problems:
1. Harsh 5-4 Downshift: When I begin to slow down, the down shift from 5-4 is harsh. I have tried everything including disconnecting the battery for 1 hour, KAM reset on SCT x3, and re-flashing my tune. The issue is the harshest between 40-60 mph. Anything below 40 is rough but not as bad. To prevent damage, I have been either coasting to a complete stop in Neutral or shifting manually from 5-4 at 30 mph.
2. Hesitation at highway speeds: This one is really stumping me. Once I get up to cruising speed in either 5th or 6th gear, there is a very noticeable hesitation every 12 seconds exactly. I even used the stopwatch function on my watch and confirmed it is every 12 seconds on the dot. The hesitation would be similar to sharply applying the brakes quickly but not holding them. The hesitation will last for about half of a second and then go back to constant power delivery. I understand that a misfire would cause a similar problem but in my mind, I would imagine that it would happen constantly. No CELs so far and this has been happening for over a week. What really confuses me is that it happens exactly every 12 seconds. The idle speed is perfect with no flares. Medium to heavy acceleration is very consistent and does not drop off at all. Just a smooth constant power delivery without the hesitation. The only things that I have thought about doing but haven't gotten around to it due to College and the large volume of orders I have received include: cleaning/replacing the mass airflow sensor, 02 sensors, spark plugs, coil packs and treating the engine with fuel injector cleaner, seafoam or another cleaner of some type.
I basically want to hear your experiences and solutions to avoid getting charged at the dealership for un-necessary parts or labor. The issues are really making me hate to drive my truck on a daily basis. Thank you to everyone in advance and hope I can get everything solved quickly without having to do without my truck for a long time.
Update: 3/7/16 : Dropped the truck off at the dealership. I took the service writer out for a drive so he could take accurate notes to describe the issues.
Update: 3/11/16 : Picked up truck. Ford wants to replace the transmission. $7,227 for a new one, $5,415 for a re-manufactured one.
Update: 3/12/16 : Spoke with a transmission shop out of Georgia. The owner builds F150 lightning transmissions and performed work on one of my friend's Raptors that had similar problems. He installed the Sonnax Zip Kit and he told me that everything was fixed and will be very reliable.
Tip if you're having my problems: These 6R80 transmissions are super strong. If you have harsh shifts, harsh gear engagement or any other odd occurrences, chances are that the Valve body needs to be upgraded with stronger parts. I've done a good bit of research on these transmissions so if you need some advice, feel free to PM me.
I'm taking my truck to Ford tomorrow to have my issues seen about. I basically want to avoid the Dealership giving me the run-around on everything and ending up having to pay more than I should.
First off, here are my specs:
2011 Raptor, 113k miles, transmission flush performed by dealership every 50k miles, 5 star 93 octane tune since 10k miles. No check engine lights whatsoever for either problem.
Problems:
1. Harsh 5-4 Downshift: When I begin to slow down, the down shift from 5-4 is harsh. I have tried everything including disconnecting the battery for 1 hour, KAM reset on SCT x3, and re-flashing my tune. The issue is the harshest between 40-60 mph. Anything below 40 is rough but not as bad. To prevent damage, I have been either coasting to a complete stop in Neutral or shifting manually from 5-4 at 30 mph.
2. Hesitation at highway speeds: This one is really stumping me. Once I get up to cruising speed in either 5th or 6th gear, there is a very noticeable hesitation every 12 seconds exactly. I even used the stopwatch function on my watch and confirmed it is every 12 seconds on the dot. The hesitation would be similar to sharply applying the brakes quickly but not holding them. The hesitation will last for about half of a second and then go back to constant power delivery. I understand that a misfire would cause a similar problem but in my mind, I would imagine that it would happen constantly. No CELs so far and this has been happening for over a week. What really confuses me is that it happens exactly every 12 seconds. The idle speed is perfect with no flares. Medium to heavy acceleration is very consistent and does not drop off at all. Just a smooth constant power delivery without the hesitation. The only things that I have thought about doing but haven't gotten around to it due to College and the large volume of orders I have received include: cleaning/replacing the mass airflow sensor, 02 sensors, spark plugs, coil packs and treating the engine with fuel injector cleaner, seafoam or another cleaner of some type.
I basically want to hear your experiences and solutions to avoid getting charged at the dealership for un-necessary parts or labor. The issues are really making me hate to drive my truck on a daily basis. Thank you to everyone in advance and hope I can get everything solved quickly without having to do without my truck for a long time.
Update: 3/7/16 : Dropped the truck off at the dealership. I took the service writer out for a drive so he could take accurate notes to describe the issues.
Update: 3/11/16 : Picked up truck. Ford wants to replace the transmission. $7,227 for a new one, $5,415 for a re-manufactured one.
Update: 3/12/16 : Spoke with a transmission shop out of Georgia. The owner builds F150 lightning transmissions and performed work on one of my friend's Raptors that had similar problems. He installed the Sonnax Zip Kit and he told me that everything was fixed and will be very reliable.
Tip if you're having my problems: These 6R80 transmissions are super strong. If you have harsh shifts, harsh gear engagement or any other odd occurrences, chances are that the Valve body needs to be upgraded with stronger parts. I've done a good bit of research on these transmissions so if you need some advice, feel free to PM me.
