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<blockquote data-quote="smurfslayer" data-source="post: 1822782" data-attributes="member: 21926"><p>So where are these deregulated nuclear power markets? IIRC, the Lightning needs an 80 amp circuit to ‘fast’ charge. This is DOUBLE the current going to your common electric dryer, which is likely the biggest energy hog in the common household. Some AC units would compete depending on where you are but for the analogy, let’s stick with the dryer. </p><p></p><p>You need ~5-6 hours for a full charge, and let’s say 2 hours for a ’top off’. 2 hours on your 80 amp charge circuit will be roughly equivalent to drying a full tub of wet clothes 4 times x 1 hour. That is, 4 consecutive full loads of wet clothes being dried. Now, I’d need to do some more math but 8 dollars seems like a stretch for that kind of draw. </p><p></p><p></p><p>But the point here is that none of EV makers have conquered the lack of range problem. Outright performance is competitive or better than ICE, but for all it’s purported benefits, you pay a large weight penalty to accommodate the batteries, which are just not that efficient and that’s why we have the Raptor that can handle Austin to El Paso on one tank of gas and the Lightning which can only make it half that distance and requires a full charge to complete the journey. But let’s make it competitive and say the Raptor also stops to refuel. The Raptor can refuel and be on the road in 10 minutes. How long for an EV recharge to make it 300 miles? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You have a good dream there. I would be open to new sales models but it’s not going to happen tomorrow, next week, or next month. We probably won’t see it next year either. </p><p></p><p>Jen Tres is probably doomed to be the most overpriced Raptor yet and not speaking to any lack of capability, just the market. I tend to think we’ll see the gas and diesel truck lines continue long into the future, but cities and counties with gold plated budgets will be able to tax their way into more favorable EV adoption rates by propping up charge stations and taxpayer funded subsidies. That may provide enough time and maturation to expand EV usage viability over the years.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smurfslayer, post: 1822782, member: 21926"] So where are these deregulated nuclear power markets? IIRC, the Lightning needs an 80 amp circuit to ‘fast’ charge. This is DOUBLE the current going to your common electric dryer, which is likely the biggest energy hog in the common household. Some AC units would compete depending on where you are but for the analogy, let’s stick with the dryer. You need ~5-6 hours for a full charge, and let’s say 2 hours for a ’top off’. 2 hours on your 80 amp charge circuit will be roughly equivalent to drying a full tub of wet clothes 4 times x 1 hour. That is, 4 consecutive full loads of wet clothes being dried. Now, I’d need to do some more math but 8 dollars seems like a stretch for that kind of draw. But the point here is that none of EV makers have conquered the lack of range problem. Outright performance is competitive or better than ICE, but for all it’s purported benefits, you pay a large weight penalty to accommodate the batteries, which are just not that efficient and that’s why we have the Raptor that can handle Austin to El Paso on one tank of gas and the Lightning which can only make it half that distance and requires a full charge to complete the journey. But let’s make it competitive and say the Raptor also stops to refuel. The Raptor can refuel and be on the road in 10 minutes. How long for an EV recharge to make it 300 miles? You have a good dream there. I would be open to new sales models but it’s not going to happen tomorrow, next week, or next month. We probably won’t see it next year either. Jen Tres is probably doomed to be the most overpriced Raptor yet and not speaking to any lack of capability, just the market. I tend to think we’ll see the gas and diesel truck lines continue long into the future, but cities and counties with gold plated budgets will be able to tax their way into more favorable EV adoption rates by propping up charge stations and taxpayer funded subsidies. That may provide enough time and maturation to expand EV usage viability over the years. [/QUOTE]
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