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<blockquote data-quote="seanpholman" data-source="post: 15838" data-attributes="member: 808"><p>Guys,</p><p></p><p>I get it and I love the Raptor, but I also have the opportunity to drive and evaluate countless vehicles over the year (I have been doing this for over 10 now). I used to consider myself a "Ford Guy", but I can't let that bias my opinion. The fact that I am in and out of so many vehicles gives me a unique perspective that someone driving the same truck every day doesn't get. There are things you miss when you are in one vehicle day in and day out, and things that you get used to. Drive something back to back on the exact same terrain and things you never noticed before become apparent. And most trucks when taken on their own may seem like the most awesome machine ever created, until you directly compare it to something.</p><p></p><p>Having been around forums as long as I have (I used to be the Admin at <a href="http://www.offroadrangers.com" target="_blank">www.offroadrangers.com</a>), I know how hard it is to win over someone that just spent their hard earned money and convince them another product may be as good or better. </p><p></p><p>And as to the "poor comparison", we took both trucks on a desert loop that represented what a typical owner may take their truck on. And while the Raptor is meant to excel at high speeds, there are portions of many trails where those speeds cannot be achieved safely due to terrain, obstacles, tightness, etc. In those conditions the Raptor driver will be forced to slow down and experience a ride that is harsher than the same driver in the Power Wagon. That is why that comparison is relevant. You just can't go 60+mph everywhere. And while you as enthusiasts may want to bomb washes in your $50,000 truck, there will be plenty more owners who will never be able to drive to the capability of the vehicle and might be disappointed that the low to moderate speed ride could be considered harsh.</p><p></p><p>As for the GMC All-Terrain (I know the designer responsible for it), it is a very neat concept. It sort of splits the difference between a 1/2-ton Raptor and a 3/4-ton Power Wagon with its HD chassis and IFS suspension. It also offers the diesel that most Power Wagon detractors clamor for. The problem is that if this truck ever reaches production, it will be very close to approaching $70,000 ($50K HD Denali, $8K Duramax, $5-8K chassis and body improvements). Is that too much for a personal use truck? I guess the market can decide that.</p><p></p><p>--Sean</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="seanpholman, post: 15838, member: 808"] Guys, I get it and I love the Raptor, but I also have the opportunity to drive and evaluate countless vehicles over the year (I have been doing this for over 10 now). I used to consider myself a "Ford Guy", but I can't let that bias my opinion. The fact that I am in and out of so many vehicles gives me a unique perspective that someone driving the same truck every day doesn't get. There are things you miss when you are in one vehicle day in and day out, and things that you get used to. Drive something back to back on the exact same terrain and things you never noticed before become apparent. And most trucks when taken on their own may seem like the most awesome machine ever created, until you directly compare it to something. Having been around forums as long as I have (I used to be the Admin at [url]www.offroadrangers.com[/url]), I know how hard it is to win over someone that just spent their hard earned money and convince them another product may be as good or better. And as to the "poor comparison", we took both trucks on a desert loop that represented what a typical owner may take their truck on. And while the Raptor is meant to excel at high speeds, there are portions of many trails where those speeds cannot be achieved safely due to terrain, obstacles, tightness, etc. In those conditions the Raptor driver will be forced to slow down and experience a ride that is harsher than the same driver in the Power Wagon. That is why that comparison is relevant. You just can't go 60+mph everywhere. And while you as enthusiasts may want to bomb washes in your $50,000 truck, there will be plenty more owners who will never be able to drive to the capability of the vehicle and might be disappointed that the low to moderate speed ride could be considered harsh. As for the GMC All-Terrain (I know the designer responsible for it), it is a very neat concept. It sort of splits the difference between a 1/2-ton Raptor and a 3/4-ton Power Wagon with its HD chassis and IFS suspension. It also offers the diesel that most Power Wagon detractors clamor for. The problem is that if this truck ever reaches production, it will be very close to approaching $70,000 ($50K HD Denali, $8K Duramax, $5-8K chassis and body improvements). Is that too much for a personal use truck? I guess the market can decide that. --Sean [/QUOTE]
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