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<blockquote data-quote="smurfslayer" data-source="post: 1799955" data-attributes="member: 21926"><p>So, that is definitely a plastic oil pan. Except for the leak, mine looks identical; 2017 with early build date. </p><p></p><p>That’s definitely an oil pan leak as well. Best that you found it now, rather than after any warranty coverage. </p><p>Despite the very low number of failures for the composite oil pan, Ford really grounded into a double play with this part. It’s plenty sturdy, well suited to the application except for the exceedingly low tolerance for out of tolerance installation or replacement. FRF is replete with stories of multiple oil pan replacements. It’s almost certainly poor workmanship, but procedurally, the process to correctly perform the repair is not difficult but it is very intricate and unforgiving. </p><p></p><p>When Ford rolled out the press intro for the 2017, F/P was questioned and criticized openly for a plastic pan. F/P scoffed at the premise that it would be a problem. Statistically, they were right, but, there was a high enough percentage to justify a part revision to a metal pan. hmmm.... maybe not such a smart business choice. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Do a couple of additional tests.</p><p>1) use tow/haul mode. There is no gear skipping but shifting is not as aggressive as sport mode. </p><p>2) manual shifting mode. </p><p></p><p>see if shift patterns improve. </p><p></p><p>Make sure the truck and transmission are fully warmed up. The 10R80 has a very different feel when it’s cold and not yet at operating temps. So, once you have the truck warmed up, give it some moderate throttle to see how things go. </p><p></p><p>Normal mode is actually the regular F150 eco mode. It’s notoriously lazy, puts you in 10th gear by 42mph, taching barely 1100 rpms. You need to give it about 50-60% throttle to avoid the “skip gear” feature. Else, you will go 1-3-5. In sport it’s not supposed to skip, but I’ve been able to make it skip 3rd gear a couple times over 5 years. I had to really try to do this, barely any throttle at all - I was on a shopping center access road fully of unwashed peasants in their peasant cars.</p><p></p><p>I would also give sport mode an extended try. Sport holds gears to keep you in the power band, so don’t be put off by that. The motor is plenty capable of holding high rpm.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smurfslayer, post: 1799955, member: 21926"] So, that is definitely a plastic oil pan. Except for the leak, mine looks identical; 2017 with early build date. That’s definitely an oil pan leak as well. Best that you found it now, rather than after any warranty coverage. Despite the very low number of failures for the composite oil pan, Ford really grounded into a double play with this part. It’s plenty sturdy, well suited to the application except for the exceedingly low tolerance for out of tolerance installation or replacement. FRF is replete with stories of multiple oil pan replacements. It’s almost certainly poor workmanship, but procedurally, the process to correctly perform the repair is not difficult but it is very intricate and unforgiving. When Ford rolled out the press intro for the 2017, F/P was questioned and criticized openly for a plastic pan. F/P scoffed at the premise that it would be a problem. Statistically, they were right, but, there was a high enough percentage to justify a part revision to a metal pan. hmmm.... maybe not such a smart business choice. Do a couple of additional tests. 1) use tow/haul mode. There is no gear skipping but shifting is not as aggressive as sport mode. 2) manual shifting mode. see if shift patterns improve. Make sure the truck and transmission are fully warmed up. The 10R80 has a very different feel when it’s cold and not yet at operating temps. So, once you have the truck warmed up, give it some moderate throttle to see how things go. Normal mode is actually the regular F150 eco mode. It’s notoriously lazy, puts you in 10th gear by 42mph, taching barely 1100 rpms. You need to give it about 50-60% throttle to avoid the “skip gear” feature. Else, you will go 1-3-5. In sport it’s not supposed to skip, but I’ve been able to make it skip 3rd gear a couple times over 5 years. I had to really try to do this, barely any throttle at all - I was on a shopping center access road fully of unwashed peasants in their peasant cars. I would also give sport mode an extended try. Sport holds gears to keep you in the power band, so don’t be put off by that. The motor is plenty capable of holding high rpm. [/QUOTE]
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