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<blockquote data-quote="smurfslayer" data-source="post: 1743116" data-attributes="member: 21926"><p>I had to read the post a few times and there’s no shortage of lazy mechanics in the world for sure, but, it does sound like from your description that the Stealership analysis is plausible, and maybe even likely. </p><p></p><p>If there was only 1 quart of oil left - after it’s pretty much drained down mind you, and there was metal in the oil, I’d bet money that the metal particles are from hyper-excessive wear on the bearings and metal to metal surfaces. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So it’s -40, midnight when this happens. You see a bunch of oil, and ‘plenty on the dip stick’. </p><p></p><p>How did you check it? Are you 8.5’ tall with a 45” reach ? ;-) </p><p>Actually my point here, discount the snark please, is I’ll bet you were seeing residual oil on the sides of the dipstick, that if the truck had time to cool down, nothing would be showing. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>with all of the facts in the above post assumed as true, the stealership analysis is still plausible. You change the oil diligently, but the drain plug leaks it out and begins to slowly starve the engine of oil. </p><p>- who did the oil change? you or someone else? was a leak noted? Wet skid plates? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don’t really know of a gentle way to get this out there, but prior to the low oil pressure light coming on, going back to the previous oil change at ~4k miles ago, when was the last time you checked the oil and how many times since the previous oil change? </p><p></p><p>We, and that includes me, can easily get complacent on maintenance, particularly on a new-ish vehicle. I caught an over fill on my last oil change, and had to drain out about a quart, but I didn’t catch it “right away” because</p><p>1) I’m not 8’6” tall with a 45” reach 2) I was lazy, assumed the local stealership handled it correctly. They didn’t. They took great care of my tires/wheels and other stuff but flubbed this. </p><p></p><p>But I’ve had a few clunkers in my driving history, one of which was a serial oil consumer, Impala. This thing drank oil to the tune of a quart every 2-3 fill ups. I gave it a good home as long as I could.</p><p></p><p>The Raptor Oil pressure light is pretty aggressive, we’ve seen users post here about going into limp mode with either a defective sensor, or low oil - but not catastrophically low. OTOH, there have been some users who got the light and it was too late. It’s not infallible.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If there was anything goofy, the tech would absolutely have gone to the S/A and had them call you. 100%. If they don’t know, the stop work immediately. Even if they do know and spot something they’re unfamiliar with or they think might come back on them, they notify the s/a. They then call you and ask what to do or may even deny working on it. </p><p></p><p>I had a bunch of goodies on my ’97 SVT Mustang and the closest shop was the local Ford dealer - literally, walking distance. If I had something that needed installed, I’d generally give them the first crack at it and just ask them if they were interested in doing the work. A bunch of the mechanics drag raced, so they were happy to do it if they knew about things ahead of time and gave the ok. The only thing they scoffed at was an MSD ignition - it had a LOT of connections, I don’t really blame them for not wanting to iron that out. </p><p></p><p>And there’s no way they’re changing out parts without owner permission. Even if they found a Jiffy Lube rubber plug in the drain pan, they would still call and ask.</p><p></p><p>[USER=55161]@WhereAreTheBrakes[/USER] I’m not trying to throw elbows at you online, and I am genuinely sorry this happened to you, but I think this is just an unfortunate failure not a warranty claim.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smurfslayer, post: 1743116, member: 21926"] I had to read the post a few times and there’s no shortage of lazy mechanics in the world for sure, but, it does sound like from your description that the Stealership analysis is plausible, and maybe even likely. If there was only 1 quart of oil left - after it’s pretty much drained down mind you, and there was metal in the oil, I’d bet money that the metal particles are from hyper-excessive wear on the bearings and metal to metal surfaces. So it’s -40, midnight when this happens. You see a bunch of oil, and ‘plenty on the dip stick’. How did you check it? Are you 8.5’ tall with a 45” reach ? ;-) Actually my point here, discount the snark please, is I’ll bet you were seeing residual oil on the sides of the dipstick, that if the truck had time to cool down, nothing would be showing. with all of the facts in the above post assumed as true, the stealership analysis is still plausible. You change the oil diligently, but the drain plug leaks it out and begins to slowly starve the engine of oil. - who did the oil change? you or someone else? was a leak noted? Wet skid plates? I don’t really know of a gentle way to get this out there, but prior to the low oil pressure light coming on, going back to the previous oil change at ~4k miles ago, when was the last time you checked the oil and how many times since the previous oil change? We, and that includes me, can easily get complacent on maintenance, particularly on a new-ish vehicle. I caught an over fill on my last oil change, and had to drain out about a quart, but I didn’t catch it “right away” because 1) I’m not 8’6” tall with a 45” reach 2) I was lazy, assumed the local stealership handled it correctly. They didn’t. They took great care of my tires/wheels and other stuff but flubbed this. But I’ve had a few clunkers in my driving history, one of which was a serial oil consumer, Impala. This thing drank oil to the tune of a quart every 2-3 fill ups. I gave it a good home as long as I could. The Raptor Oil pressure light is pretty aggressive, we’ve seen users post here about going into limp mode with either a defective sensor, or low oil - but not catastrophically low. OTOH, there have been some users who got the light and it was too late. It’s not infallible. If there was anything goofy, the tech would absolutely have gone to the S/A and had them call you. 100%. If they don’t know, the stop work immediately. Even if they do know and spot something they’re unfamiliar with or they think might come back on them, they notify the s/a. They then call you and ask what to do or may even deny working on it. I had a bunch of goodies on my ’97 SVT Mustang and the closest shop was the local Ford dealer - literally, walking distance. If I had something that needed installed, I’d generally give them the first crack at it and just ask them if they were interested in doing the work. A bunch of the mechanics drag raced, so they were happy to do it if they knew about things ahead of time and gave the ok. The only thing they scoffed at was an MSD ignition - it had a LOT of connections, I don’t really blame them for not wanting to iron that out. And there’s no way they’re changing out parts without owner permission. Even if they found a Jiffy Lube rubber plug in the drain pan, they would still call and ask. [USER=55161]@WhereAreTheBrakes[/USER] I’m not trying to throw elbows at you online, and I am genuinely sorry this happened to you, but I think this is just an unfortunate failure not a warranty claim. [/QUOTE]
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