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<blockquote data-quote="Badgertits" data-source="post: 1419142" data-attributes="member: 31322"><p>You - have selective reading skills then lol - you saw the <strong>(N/A)</strong> caveat dropped in that statement right? ;-) The termi cobra motor was/is my favorite iteration of the Ford modular V8 - was same in the Lightning right? That's why I said NATURALLY ASPIRATED - that blown 4.6 w/ the forged guts & stout bottom end aint the same as their standard offerings.....but, stock for stock it was never beating a C5 Z06 @ the strip or the track. Most guys were lucky to get low 13's high 12's stock w/ the termi's, adding DR's getting them into low 12's. I shouldn't need to mention, but ALOT of gearheads are aware of the bone stock C5Z times going sub 12 (stock tires & shifter even) & bone stock C6Z's dipping into the lowest 11's/highest 10's. Confirmed. On vid. Slips. Check out Ranger - helluva driver! Now sure once you slap tires, up the boost/tune those termi cobras its a whole different ball game - but lugging around nearly 1000 lbs over a C5Z they need the extra work to negate the weight factor. So if you don't wanna go down the road of "well if the C5Z had a blower forget about it" convo - the fact is back then same as now, no termi cobras were beating C5Z's (let alone C6Z's jesus christ man) down the strip or esp. around a race track - didn't take the C6 ZR1 to "beat" that version of the mustang nor is it even a fair comparison. I have a H/C/I + shifter/built diff/suspension mods on my own C5Z - but even when it was closer to stock just intake/tune I was keeping up w/ a tuned/pulleyed 04 cobra my buddy had, car had the mystichrome paint - sick ride no doubt, but 3900 lbs vs 3080 lbs - woof! Tough to overcome that - from the get go the C5Z is moving 25% less mass - takes +120hp for the Cobra to even that up, which means modifying....& we all know all bets are off once you go down that road. Pulley swap on cobra? I'll raise you a ram air CAI, LT headers, & tune on the C5Z etc etc</p><p></p><p>For the record, mine WILL be supercharged too in the spring. And I don't hate all Ford stuff - hence why I'm in a Raptor!!! I just don't think they've made a V8 I give a shit about since the exact terminator blown 4.6 you correctly mention - although I WAS very hopeful w/ the voodoo 5.2, it was even a car I considered "swapping" out for my C5Z before putting any more $$$/mods into it (also cross shopped w/ CPO BMW M2, Civic SI, Lexus RCf, & camaro 1LE) - I LOVED the sound of it, loved the high strung high revving feel of it, great balance & handling etc. - BUT as I did my research I came to the conclusion just wasn't as sturdy/reliable as the GM V8's I was already used to & didn't want to have to start learning how to tinker w/ a new engine design since I like doing some of my own mods when possible. You're not going to tell me that engine is as reliable as an LT1 right?</p><p></p><p>And for the record....sadly actually b/c I loved the design/idea of it.....GM HAS made trucks faster than a stock Lightning, & they aren't "sport" models - I'm talking crew cab std bed loaded up SLTs/Denalis w/ the 6.2, guys are running 13.6-13.8 STOCK - not even defeating the 98 mph governor so that's the "trap" & they probably have a little more in em. Add intake/headers/tune & those 3 ton land yachts do high 12's - check it out for yourself on youtube. I think the fastest version of any truck out there would be if you could get the following combo from either ford or GM:</p><p></p><p>Ford - drop the HO 3.5 in regular or SCAB w/ tow package/deepest gears available in lowest trim possible</p><p>GM - dropping the 6.2 in their base regular or extended cab w/ tow package AND E85 capable (the 5.3 sucking E85 comes up to 90% the power of the 6.2 on factory ecu mapping btw)</p><p></p><p>Lastly - my buddy w/ the termi cobra liked it so much after selling he decided to make his own "Maraudernator" - put a cobra blower on it, headers, 4.10s, intake etc. w/ some other stuff, sending it down to GA for a stickshift conversion kit. Cool.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]133225[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Badgertits, post: 1419142, member: 31322"] You - have selective reading skills then lol - you saw the [B](N/A)[/B] caveat dropped in that statement right? ;-) The termi cobra motor was/is my favorite iteration of the Ford modular V8 - was same in the Lightning right? That's why I said NATURALLY ASPIRATED - that blown 4.6 w/ the forged guts & stout bottom end aint the same as their standard offerings.....but, stock for stock it was never beating a C5 Z06 @ the strip or the track. Most guys were lucky to get low 13's high 12's stock w/ the termi's, adding DR's getting them into low 12's. I shouldn't need to mention, but ALOT of gearheads are aware of the bone stock C5Z times going sub 12 (stock tires & shifter even) & bone stock C6Z's dipping into the lowest 11's/highest 10's. Confirmed. On vid. Slips. Check out Ranger - helluva driver! Now sure once you slap tires, up the boost/tune those termi cobras its a whole different ball game - but lugging around nearly 1000 lbs over a C5Z they need the extra work to negate the weight factor. So if you don't wanna go down the road of "well if the C5Z had a blower forget about it" convo - the fact is back then same as now, no termi cobras were beating C5Z's (let alone C6Z's jesus christ man) down the strip or esp. around a race track - didn't take the C6 ZR1 to "beat" that version of the mustang nor is it even a fair comparison. I have a H/C/I + shifter/built diff/suspension mods on my own C5Z - but even when it was closer to stock just intake/tune I was keeping up w/ a tuned/pulleyed 04 cobra my buddy had, car had the mystichrome paint - sick ride no doubt, but 3900 lbs vs 3080 lbs - woof! Tough to overcome that - from the get go the C5Z is moving 25% less mass - takes +120hp for the Cobra to even that up, which means modifying....& we all know all bets are off once you go down that road. Pulley swap on cobra? I'll raise you a ram air CAI, LT headers, & tune on the C5Z etc etc For the record, mine WILL be supercharged too in the spring. And I don't hate all Ford stuff - hence why I'm in a Raptor!!! I just don't think they've made a V8 I give a shit about since the exact terminator blown 4.6 you correctly mention - although I WAS very hopeful w/ the voodoo 5.2, it was even a car I considered "swapping" out for my C5Z before putting any more $$$/mods into it (also cross shopped w/ CPO BMW M2, Civic SI, Lexus RCf, & camaro 1LE) - I LOVED the sound of it, loved the high strung high revving feel of it, great balance & handling etc. - BUT as I did my research I came to the conclusion just wasn't as sturdy/reliable as the GM V8's I was already used to & didn't want to have to start learning how to tinker w/ a new engine design since I like doing some of my own mods when possible. You're not going to tell me that engine is as reliable as an LT1 right? And for the record....sadly actually b/c I loved the design/idea of it.....GM HAS made trucks faster than a stock Lightning, & they aren't "sport" models - I'm talking crew cab std bed loaded up SLTs/Denalis w/ the 6.2, guys are running 13.6-13.8 STOCK - not even defeating the 98 mph governor so that's the "trap" & they probably have a little more in em. Add intake/headers/tune & those 3 ton land yachts do high 12's - check it out for yourself on youtube. I think the fastest version of any truck out there would be if you could get the following combo from either ford or GM: Ford - drop the HO 3.5 in regular or SCAB w/ tow package/deepest gears available in lowest trim possible GM - dropping the 6.2 in their base regular or extended cab w/ tow package AND E85 capable (the 5.3 sucking E85 comes up to 90% the power of the 6.2 on factory ecu mapping btw) Lastly - my buddy w/ the termi cobra liked it so much after selling he decided to make his own "Maraudernator" - put a cobra blower on it, headers, 4.10s, intake etc. w/ some other stuff, sending it down to GA for a stickshift conversion kit. Cool. [ATTACH=full]133225[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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