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<blockquote data-quote="pbtjrlmrt" data-source="post: 1552064" data-attributes="member: 31858"><p>I spent a lot of time talking with the guys at RPG and Deaver. Both said that airbags are silly on the Raptor. At least for my intended purpose which is to use the Raptor for it's intended purpose and also carry recovery gear while towing a 3500lb trailer to a base camp. Sort of an overland/baja setup. There are a lot of ways to set up the suspension to meet particular goals. Mine was to retain factory Raptorness while increasing load carrying slightly. The solution for me was a custom set of Deaver springs built special using the stock springs as the base. Basically added 2 leafs to the pack and custom arch. Nothing needed or wanted in the front. </p><p></p><p>If I had wanted to put geiser springs on knowing that the added stress to front suspension components would cause issues in the future for very little practical gain then Deaver would have done a different build to accommodate. Both Deaver and RPG suggested leaving the front alone...again...based on my needs. </p><p></p><p>Airbags limit articulation and create a failure point. ON road they serve their intended purpose well. Build your truck to your intended purpose, talk to guys who know the Raptor and understand suspension that can guide you. If you only get advice from the forum most will just say geiser and Deaver +3 which is a one size fits all solution for an unknown problem. Suspension mods for aesthetics are counterintuitive to making your truck better off road or for towing. If you're modding the suspension the first priority should be performance/reliability unless your priority is looks then the sky is the limit cause you don't have to have any knowledge you just have to achieve your particular style.</p><p></p><p>The Deaver custom pack was cheaper than the +3 boxed solution and again, Deaver recommended against their +3 pack for towing anything. Their words "The +3 packs and all their pre made Raptor packs for that matter are progressive. The stock leaf pack is a 2 stage design and building on that design will give much better results for towing while retaining baja off roadability" </p><p></p><p>No suspension setup is perfect. There is no holy grail. You'll see a lot of opinions...most uneducated...because there are a hundred ways to set up the suspension. You only need to understand your individual needs and work with experts that can help guide you to the solution that fits your particular situation. The stock suspension ran the Baja 1000 then drove home and that's good enough for me...LOL</p><p></p><p><a href="https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2016/11/29/the-all-new-ford-f-150-raptor-tackles-baja-1000--then-drives-the.html" target="_blank">https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2016/11/29/the-all-new-ford-f-150-raptor-tackles-baja-1000--then-drives-the.html</a> </p><p></p><p>It would cost a lot of money to "change" the suspension but for a few hundred you can tweak it here or there to get what you need. For me..Airbags that limit articulation and create a failure point don't fit into my needs or wants and that's why I don't use them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pbtjrlmrt, post: 1552064, member: 31858"] I spent a lot of time talking with the guys at RPG and Deaver. Both said that airbags are silly on the Raptor. At least for my intended purpose which is to use the Raptor for it's intended purpose and also carry recovery gear while towing a 3500lb trailer to a base camp. Sort of an overland/baja setup. There are a lot of ways to set up the suspension to meet particular goals. Mine was to retain factory Raptorness while increasing load carrying slightly. The solution for me was a custom set of Deaver springs built special using the stock springs as the base. Basically added 2 leafs to the pack and custom arch. Nothing needed or wanted in the front. If I had wanted to put geiser springs on knowing that the added stress to front suspension components would cause issues in the future for very little practical gain then Deaver would have done a different build to accommodate. Both Deaver and RPG suggested leaving the front alone...again...based on my needs. Airbags limit articulation and create a failure point. ON road they serve their intended purpose well. Build your truck to your intended purpose, talk to guys who know the Raptor and understand suspension that can guide you. If you only get advice from the forum most will just say geiser and Deaver +3 which is a one size fits all solution for an unknown problem. Suspension mods for aesthetics are counterintuitive to making your truck better off road or for towing. If you're modding the suspension the first priority should be performance/reliability unless your priority is looks then the sky is the limit cause you don't have to have any knowledge you just have to achieve your particular style. The Deaver custom pack was cheaper than the +3 boxed solution and again, Deaver recommended against their +3 pack for towing anything. Their words "The +3 packs and all their pre made Raptor packs for that matter are progressive. The stock leaf pack is a 2 stage design and building on that design will give much better results for towing while retaining baja off roadability" No suspension setup is perfect. There is no holy grail. You'll see a lot of opinions...most uneducated...because there are a hundred ways to set up the suspension. You only need to understand your individual needs and work with experts that can help guide you to the solution that fits your particular situation. The stock suspension ran the Baja 1000 then drove home and that's good enough for me...LOL [URL]https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2016/11/29/the-all-new-ford-f-150-raptor-tackles-baja-1000--then-drives-the.html[/URL] It would cost a lot of money to "change" the suspension but for a few hundred you can tweak it here or there to get what you need. For me..Airbags that limit articulation and create a failure point don't fit into my needs or wants and that's why I don't use them. [/QUOTE]
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