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<blockquote data-quote="EricM" data-source="post: 1414018" data-attributes="member: 20286"><p>I know what happened. I also know the CBS faked their tests that showed them catching fire.</p><p></p><p>All car companies are going to make that financial decision on vehicles that are problematic in wrecks. Do you think they should drop 2 billion dollars to re-design and modify every truck they made because 1 person died? 2 people? 20 people? 50 people? What's the number? I don't think it's 1, but what is it? You have to discuss that and determine what that number is if you are a car company.</p><p></p><p>You make it sound so horrible "they chose to hurt people etc". There is a number where it does not make sense to redesign the vehicles, but to instead just pay out for losses. Don't forget, they are building something that someone will likely die in every single day in an infinite number of different scenarios. If they tried to fix every single one of those scenarios retroactively they would be out of business.</p><p></p><p>Same goes for the Pinto. Ford was not alone in that design. Damn near everyone put the tank in back at the time, and fires were common as hell in all the 70s and older cars during rear-end collisions. Remember the flip down plate to fill up the tank? Ford just caught the flak since they got ahold of their memos discussing it. All the 79-04 Mustangs have the tanks in that spot, every Crown Vic ever made (which were also "exposed" for this design) etc. Those and dozens more from every manufacturer that made a car during the time period.</p><p></p><p>As for the whole ignition switch thing- Jesus, how about, I don't know, maybe not turning off your ignition while you drive? Nobody can take personal responsibility for anything nowadays.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EricM, post: 1414018, member: 20286"] I know what happened. I also know the CBS faked their tests that showed them catching fire. All car companies are going to make that financial decision on vehicles that are problematic in wrecks. Do you think they should drop 2 billion dollars to re-design and modify every truck they made because 1 person died? 2 people? 20 people? 50 people? What's the number? I don't think it's 1, but what is it? You have to discuss that and determine what that number is if you are a car company. You make it sound so horrible "they chose to hurt people etc". There is a number where it does not make sense to redesign the vehicles, but to instead just pay out for losses. Don't forget, they are building something that someone will likely die in every single day in an infinite number of different scenarios. If they tried to fix every single one of those scenarios retroactively they would be out of business. Same goes for the Pinto. Ford was not alone in that design. Damn near everyone put the tank in back at the time, and fires were common as hell in all the 70s and older cars during rear-end collisions. Remember the flip down plate to fill up the tank? Ford just caught the flak since they got ahold of their memos discussing it. All the 79-04 Mustangs have the tanks in that spot, every Crown Vic ever made (which were also "exposed" for this design) etc. Those and dozens more from every manufacturer that made a car during the time period. As for the whole ignition switch thing- Jesus, how about, I don't know, maybe not turning off your ignition while you drive? Nobody can take personal responsibility for anything nowadays. [/QUOTE]
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