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<blockquote data-quote="GordoJay" data-source="post: 1822828" data-attributes="member: 39584"><p>Everything takes energy. There's the stuff you mention that uses petroleum directly, like plastics and fertilizer, and then there's everything else. Literally everything. Fuçking food. Yes, it grows in the sun for "free". But it has to be watered, fertilized, worked, harvested, processed, stored, transported multiple times. And that's if you eat it fresh. Add in layers and layers if it goes into a factory. Shit, when you go to the hairdresser to get your man bun groomed, what you pay covers the energy cost of the groomers food, housing, and transportation. So even straight services cost energy. A country's standard of living is in direct proportion to it's energy use. Cut back energy use and you lower your standard of living. Europe is a great first world example. Little houses, little cars, expensive food, crowded conditions in comparison to the US. The only way the díckheads in Washington can sell this stupidity is by turning concern for the environment into a mental illness. Someone was just apologizing for a rant. I guess it's my turn. Sorry. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GordoJay, post: 1822828, member: 39584"] Everything takes energy. There's the stuff you mention that uses petroleum directly, like plastics and fertilizer, and then there's everything else. Literally everything. Fuçking food. Yes, it grows in the sun for "free". But it has to be watered, fertilized, worked, harvested, processed, stored, transported multiple times. And that's if you eat it fresh. Add in layers and layers if it goes into a factory. Shit, when you go to the hairdresser to get your man bun groomed, what you pay covers the energy cost of the groomers food, housing, and transportation. So even straight services cost energy. A country's standard of living is in direct proportion to it's energy use. Cut back energy use and you lower your standard of living. Europe is a great first world example. Little houses, little cars, expensive food, crowded conditions in comparison to the US. The only way the díckheads in Washington can sell this stupidity is by turning concern for the environment into a mental illness. Someone was just apologizing for a rant. I guess it's my turn. Sorry. :) [/QUOTE]
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