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Also, real world.... people are paying invoice on these and have been for a while. These are not investments, BUT, demand for a v6 problematic truck is really low in the resale world.

That’s not a good deal - you will still lose your shorts. Owners of 13/14 will enjoy the best resale value as they just don’t depreciate.

Use cruise control everywhere you go and you will find mpg up close to 19.

Wait it out a year or two and weigh your options of buying a used one or new one.

Is that indicative of the gen 2 owners?

Go back and review pictures earlier in the thread. There are cracked pans and leaks around bolt holes. That has been the majority of complaints.

This is an incorrect statement.. pans are being replaced and get new gaskets (gaskets are 1 time use). The leaks shown on the web are around bolt holes where the bolts seem to have been overtourqued. Steel pans never had issues like these.

^^^ Wait... you are not concerned with the stock vehicle issues??? If you tune, they will only get worse and fail faster. Tuning does not save you... it quickens the failures.

The gen 2 attracted the fast and furious crowd... many of which have never owned a truck of any type.

I wonder if the aftermarket is working on a steel replacement oil pan? These plastic oil pans are junk.

Open your eyes and spend some time researching it. There are several well documented cases of extensive drivetrain warranty work that owners have needed.

Wonder why not sp534 gapped to .028?? In all previous ecoboosts, sp534 was the only recommended plug and gap was .030 for stock, and .028 for modified. These have definitely been problems on ecoboosts if the gap is not .030 or less. I guess that’s why people have to change them so often.

Wowwwww!!!! This should get very interesting!!

I would only listen to MJ on this one....

Definitely not advisable to modify these... expensive, lengthy failures are showing up.

^^^ And, as it should be. It is purpose built for off-road. Why does anyone care how fast it is or isn’t? The real problem is that these gen 2 ecoboost people must suffer from little man / Napoleon syndrome. They go into this on the defensive for buying a v6 truck. They stir their own crap up.

Yes, it will void the warranty if you break something. You can fight it all you want, but Ford will win this. Stay stock... you will need your warranty more than anyone cares to admit. Throw some Flowmaster mufflers on to fix the sound and call it done.

It is funny to see a loss can’t be accepted. Why do you care if it’s faster or not??

All that work and money for zero gain?

From this, I gather people are happy with a slower truck. If that’s the case, why are the gen 2 people so against good ole’ reliable 6.2?

So what you are saying is that the Raptor HO 3.5 Ecoboost has less power than a ‘pedestrian’ 3.5 Ecoboost?

^^wow...

Same issue as first generation ecoboosts??

You would want another one?

You will find it rare that people are going for these two expensive aftermarket exhausts because these two actually make it sound worse.