GEN 2 Motor Trend Review Raptor vs ZR2 vs Power Wagon

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Frank N

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ZR2's are selling for invoice...Power Wagons are less than invoice, the average Raptor is over MSRP, doesn't mean one is better than the other but the market has spoken as to what it likes....and nothing says depreciation like a bowtie on your front grill.
 

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Jesus- it's a sad day when a Chevy Colorado performs better off road than a Raptor. The Ram too, ugh.

I gotta put some stock in what they are saying, this wasn't just a few hours in each truck in one particular location. They spent multiple days in each truck on all kinds of rough roads and the results were consistent. Raptor does better than both on road, and was not as good as either off road.

The US Border Patrol was buying Gen1 Raptors. Any info on what that agency is buying, currently?
 

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The US Border Patrol was buying Gen1 Raptors. Any info on what that agency is buying, currently?

Fleet vehicles don't work that way. They buy a lot of vehicles. The Gen1 was only one of the vehicles in their fleet. They also have Dodge Rams, Chevy Tahoes, Standard F150s, Hummer H1s, even some Crown Vics and whole list of other vehicles. They buy what they get the best contract on based on the usage needed.

You really can't single out one model they own and ask what they are replacing it with since that isn't how fleet vehicle purchasing works. Depending on current contracts when on Gen1 is pulled from service it may get replace by a Ford Fusion if they decide they have enough trucks in service and need more cars. That doesn't mean the Fusion is a replacement for all Gen1s.
 

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ZR2's are selling for invoice...Power Wagons are less than invoice, the average Raptor is over MSRP, doesn't mean one is better than the other but the market has spoken as to what it likes....and nothing says depreciation like a bowtie on your front grill.

At least now we know where to send all the people who complain about the lack of a V8.
 

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Wonder if the Dodge's bed started rusting out over the wheel wells before the test was over...

Those things are just junk.
 
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