Am I just asking for issues towing 6500lbs?

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i pull a boat across the desert, 500 miles round trip.100-115 deg. I watch tranny temps 204-215. All seems ok, but I just feel under gunned compared to my old duramax.
 

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No you should be fine. But of course your gonna feel under gunned because your old truck was a diesel and more well suited for towing
 
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No you should be fine. But of course your gonna feel under gunned because your old truck was a diesel and more well suited for towing

I figure the weak link is the tranny, but doesn't seem to get hot. I was Leary of buying the raptor, I could have done a f350 for the same price, but it's not a raptor.
FYI, 480 lbs of tongue weight, levels out a stock 2014 screw.
 

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I figure the weak link is the tranny, but doesn't seem to get hot. I was Leary of buying the raptor, I could have done a f350 for the same price, but it's not a raptor.
FYI, 480 lbs of tongue weight, levels out a stock 2014 screw.

I agree on the transmission being the weak link. Even though the temps you see are not that bad having a transmission cooler might not be the worst idea, maybe look into one of these Transmission Cooler Kit - RPG OffroadRPG Offroad
 

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Should be fine. I have towed that more than once with my truck. No issues, held up well and strong.
 

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You have plenty of motor and you're below the towing allowance. Assuming your setup is good, I don't see anything to worry about.
 

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i pull a boat across the desert, 500 miles round trip.100-115 deg. I watch tranny temps 204-215. All seems ok, but I just feel under gunned compared to my old duramax.

Your temps seem normal. Towing my 7000lbs toybox I saw temps as high as 210° and in the dunes I've seen the temp go as high as 215° so you should be OK.

From @HAYNES OFFROAD

Ive spiked my trans temp to 235° in the dunes running really hard on a 80° day with factory ATF. Once i converted the trans to Amsoil i havnt seen temps go over 220° in the same conditions/driving.

190-205° would be considered normal operating temp for our trucks.

205-225° would be expected during spirited runs.

225-250° would be extreme situations such as hill climbs, or hard desert running. Let cool as soon as possible.

275° is the absolute max, VERY temporary operating temp (such as a long hill climb), before you will considerably reduce the life of your ATF and trans. Let cool immediatly.

At 300° you WILL damage internal transmission parts, including warpage of metal parts, degradation of clutches, and melting of seals. Transmission oil oxidizes, (forming varnish-like substances causing further clutch slippage and compounding heat build up) and transmission oil life is extremely short. If you see this temp, break out the check book.


Every 20° above 200°, oil oxidation rate doubles.

For EXAMPLE, say, at 200°, ATF life is 100,000 miles,
220° ATF life is 50,000 miles,
240°- 25,000,
260°- 12,500,
280°- 6,250,
300°- 3,125 miles.... And so on...

Obviously those numbers arnt going to be exact and is only hypothetical, because every transmission sees differant temps on a day to day basis, as in one day, your trans will only see 195°, while on another it sees 220°....

Obviously a larger cooler with fan, would be one of the better ways to control trans temps a lot better. Couple that with some Amsoil ATF and finned/deeper pan and that would go a long way.


http://www.fordraptorforum.com/f5/transmission-temp-while-dunes-40070/#post809157
 
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I agree on the transmission being the weak link. Even though the temps you see are not that bad having a transmission cooler might not be the worst idea, maybe look into one of these Transmission Cooler Kit - RPG OffroadRPG Offroad
Agree on this, anybody know if this is a plug and play unit? I have had trans coolers in the past, I don't like cutting lines and hose clamping something in line
 

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