Car and Driver Article - 2017 Raptor

RSH46 said:

The 2018 Raptor most likely will have a 5.0 Ecoboost. The same engine going in the Mustang GT 500.

The F-150 Raptor will also receive the EcoBoost 5.0 V8 in 2018 | HorsepowerKings.com

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They are notorious for bogus made up info

They are not the only ones I heard this info from. Even though they had some glaringly wrong info about the new Raptor, they also had quite a bit right. I really think they are working on a V8 for the new Raptor. Not sure what's so hard to believe about it. If they didn't have any V8s available in the truck line anymore or the Mustang, I'd say we'd have no hope but they still exist. I'm going to have faith that Ford will offer at least a V8 option in the new Raptor.

That's crazy if it's true. I find it odd they are putting the Cobra Jet motors into Super Duties as an alternative to the diesel. Doesn't seem to me a high HP engine designed a Mustang would do well in a heavy duty truck

My hope this early announcement was to test waters with V6. With enough pressure, Ford might see the light... hopefully.

WyoStorm said:

They are not the only ones I heard this info from. Even though they had some glaringly wrong info about the new Raptor, they also had quite a bit right. I really think they are working on a V8 for the new Raptor. Not sure what's so hard to believe about it. If they didn't have any V8s available in the truck line anymore or the Mustang, I'd say we'd have no hope but they still exist. I'm going to have faith that Ford will offer at least a V8 option in the new Raptor.

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I agree with you there. They were off on what they said the weight would be, but they were right about a few things.

If v8 is an option, lets see how many ecoboost fans will still buy it.

skyscraper said:

If v8 is an option, lets see how many ecoboost fans will still buy it.

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Probably not many if the price difference is minor. If its some crazy amount like $7k-10k Im sure the v6 will be purchased alongside the v8.

Not a lot of people can throw down $70k+ on a truck so if a v8 pushes it over that itll hamper sales significantly in my opinion.

WyoStorm said:

They are not the only ones I heard this info from. Even though they had some glaringly wrong info about the new Raptor, they also had quite a bit right. I really think they are working on a V8 for the new Raptor. Not sure what's so hard to believe about it. If they didn't have any V8s available in the truck line anymore or the Mustang, I'd say we'd have no hope but they still exist. I'm going to have faith that Ford will offer at least a V8 option in the new Raptor.

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Have any other sources then? All I've seen is reposts of their article

bstoner59 said:

That's crazy if it's true. I find it odd they are putting the Cobra Jet motors into Super Duties as an alternative to the diesel. Doesn't seem to me a high HP engine designed a Mustang would do well in a heavy duty truck

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What on earth are you talking about cj motors in SD trucks? Cj motors were 5.4s till 13 then they went 5.0, and besides the fact the internals were different than the f150 5.4 and 5.0, the 5.0 was never available in the SD anyway

Just the same rumors others are hearing mainly from those who have friends at Ford. Obviously everything is rumors and will be for a long time. My dealer, which is really good, has heard the same thing. They even talked about it at one of their meetings. Like to hear a few more 'rumors' before I get excited but combine these low rumblings with the fact I just don't believe our gen2 Raptor beast will only have a v6 option. Don't believe it and won't believe it until proven wrong.

Reptar said:

Have any other sources then? All I've seen is reposts of their article

What on earth are you talking about cj motors in SD trucks? Cj motors were 5.4s till 13 then they went 5.0, and besides the fact the internals were different than the f150 5.4 and 5.0, the 5.0 was never available in the SD anyway

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Did you read the article?

WyoStorm said:

Just the same rumors others are hearing mainly from those who have friends at Ford. Obviously everything is rumors and will be for a long time. My dealer, which is really good, has heard the same thing. They even talked about it at one of their meetings. Like to hear a few more 'rumors' before I get excited but combine these low rumblings with the fact I just don't believe our gen2 Raptor beast will only have a v6 option. Don't believe it and won't believe it until proven wrong.

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That's not a single additional source. "others", "people at ford", and "my really good dealership even talked about it at a meeting"......sorry those sources are as reliable as horsepower kings lol, and no dealers are having creditable meetings about gen 2 raptor powertrains other than passing their own made up rumors around.

bstoner59 said:

Did you read the article?

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Holy cow, I just read the Horsepower Kings Article, usually out of principle I don't even read anything on their site just like I don't read the tabloids. You just turned their assumptions and guesses based off their rumor mill article into a statement.

What is really interesting, we are told [with no sources whatsoever provided]– is that this Twin-Turbo V8 could possibly make it’s way into other models of the Ford lineup.....Our guess is we will see the motor in other F-150 models, such as the FX4, Lariat and Platinum – possibly even the Super Duty models as an alternative to the 6.7L Powerstroke Diesel

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That whole slew of assumptions, guesses, hypotheses, and shots in the dark turned into a factual statement....

bstoner59 said:

I find it odd they are putting the Cobra Jet motors into Super Duties as an alternative to the diesel. Doesn't seem to me a high HP engine designed a Mustang would do well in a heavy duty truck

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And a rumor is born, someone doesn't click the link, they read on FRF that hey I read Ford is putting Cobra Jet motors in Superduties!


Also the article has it wrong about the CJ motor in itself which is another giant red flag.

The EcoBoost 5.0 V8 program has been under development for a several years, and first made it’s public appearance in the Cobra Jet program in late-2012

It never made it into the CJ program. There was a concept CJ released in 2012 with a twin turbo 5.0, but it never made it into the CJ program. The 2013 and 2014 CJ's were N/A and S/C 5.0s.

Now I do believe we'll see an ecoboost 5.0 in a next gen GT500, I don't think it will make it to the Raptor, just like the 5.8 SC GT500 engine never made it to anything outside the GT500 either. Also the CJ N/A or CJ 5.0 motor never made it outside anything other than the CJ.


Long story short, way too many leaps of faiths, assumptions, and putting the wrong puzzle pieces together to be making statements that ford's putting CJ motors in superduties. That whole sentence in itself is quite absurd sounding lol. May you eventually see a gas ecoboost engine in a superduty? I think it's totally plausible. Would it ever be a CJ crate motor dropped in? You're smoking crack to even think that. Even the superduty 6.2 isn't the same as the raptor/regular f150 6.2. Even the f150 5.0 isn't the same as the mustang 5.0. Even the mustang 5.0 isn't the same as the CJ mustang 5.0! Just because an engine shares the same displacement by no means that it's automatically a CJ motor in a superduty lol.