Trying so hard to like the Gen 3 but.....

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I'm breaking each component of design down and I keep coming up Gen 2...I love some of the technology advancements and the 37's but correct me if I'm wrong...this is how I see it. There is no question the truck has plenty of new improvements from a functional stand point so I won't go into those.

Grille - Gen 2 - this new Grille just looks like it has less detail and thought. I get the minimalist design to be more 'modern' but it really looks like it's missing something. I could argue if I put both trucks in front of someone who didn't know which Gen was which, they'd pick the Gen 2 from just looking at the front as the newer model.

Lights - Gen 2 - new lights look so basic and plain, I'm not sure I can get over that. Gen 2 lights look more detailed, more thoughtful design and more menacing. Even the fender molding so nicely around the lights gives it a more pronounced look.

Hood Scoop - Gen 2 - again, they went so basic on the hood scoop. Less detail and even more like plastic now. I feel like they tried to compensate with this smaller looking scoop with the "raptor" stamp on it. As if the bean counters told them we need to save some costs here.

Fender Vents - Gen 2 - anyone else with me on the fact that the new fender vent is just too high up on the fender and looks out of proportion? Maybe it's because I'm used to staring at my Gen 2 vent being properly positioned/proportioned. I get the whole F-22 fighter jet thing, but I think that was a way to distance themselves from a "raptor" being an animal to minimize some of the cheesy easter eggs Dodge planted.

Tail-lights - Gen 2 - again, if you look at the detail around the bodywork of the Gen 2 taillight, it's molded with a design and has some nice lines that blend nicely with the whole truck. I also kinda like how the lights themselves have the little bulges and 3D detail in them. Not sure how the Gen 3 lights actually look in person but the blocking of colors in the lights themselves even looks a bit off to me. Also, the body line where the light inserts is just a straight line now, no curves or angles and less pronounced indent.

Rear Appliqué - Gen 2 - Again, it took me a minute to notice this but the Gen 3 appliqué is now just straight across line on the bottom edge with no angular detail. My Gen 2 (2020) has a nice angled cutout at the bottom that just adds a little design flare to the tailgate appliqué and looks less like an afterthought slap a piece of plastic on the back.


Interior

I won't go into too much detail here, but I do love the new interior, it looks to be more polished and finished but it also looks a little less rugged and off-roadish, if that makes any sense. I like my carbon fiber shift knob and a few other details I feel the Gen 2 still has the Gen 3 interior beat on, not in terms of quality or fit/finish just design and feel to match the trucks personality. The interior just has this confused "I want to be a Lincoln Navigator but I still want to be a truck" look to me. I'm sure it will grow more on me overtime.


Steering Wheel - Damn I really want to like that new steering wheel but again, it just looks less rugged and sporty. They even removed the perforated leather on the sides and the Raptor logo just doesn't look as mean or pronounced as it does on my Gen 2 wheel. My girlfriend was actually the first to point this out...


Anyway, not even sure why I took the time to write this, just really trying to put it in writing so that I can keep my want for "new and better" in check...lol.
 
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I look at it this way: If I was buying a new Raptor and the 2020 and the 2021 were side by side, had similar options, and the price was close, I’d lean 2021 for the updated suspension and 37” tires. I prefer the drivers instrument panel on the 2nd Gen (I like a analog gauges for my speedometer and tach), and the 2021 steering wheel looks like it has too much stuff going on.

All that said, I don’t see enough to make me jump from my 2020 (that’s paid for) to a 2021. I’ll watch the 2022 to see if they give us a Supercharged V8, but the cost of the Supercharged version is going to be pushing $100,000 when equipped similar to my truck that stickered for $74,000. I just can’t stomach that kind of cash for a truck, but it will be cool to look at.
 

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I'm breaking each component of design down and I keep coming up Gen 2...I love some of the technology advancements and the 37's but correct me if I'm wrong...this is how I see it. There is no question the truck has plenty of new improvements from a functional stand point so I won't go into those.

Grille - Gen 2 - this new Grille just looks like it has less detail and thought. I get the minimalist design to be more 'modern' but it really looks like it's missing something. I could argue if I put both trucks in front of someone who didn't know which Gen was which, they'd pick the Gen 2 from just looking at the front as the newer model.

Lights - Gen 2 - new lights look so basic and plain, I'm not sure I can get over that. Gen 2 lights look more detailed, more thoughtful design and more menacing. Even the fender molding so nicely around the lights gives it a more pronounced look.

Hood Scoop - Gen 2 - again, they went so basic on the hood scoop. Looks cheap and even more like plastic now. I feel like they tried to compensate with this smaller cheaper looking scoop with the "raptor" stamp on it. As if the bean counters told them we need to save some costs here.

Fender Vents - Gen 2 - anyone else with me on the fact that the new fender vent is just too high up on the fender and looks out of proportion? Maybe it's because I'm used to staring at my Gen 2 vent being properly positioned/proportioned. I get the whole F-22 fighter jet thing, but I think that was a way to distance themselves from a "raptor" being an animal to minimize some of the cheesy easter eggs Dodge planted.

Tail-lights - Gen 2 - again, if you look at the detail around the bodywork of the Gen 2 taillight, it's molded with a design and has some nice lines that blend nicely with the whole truck. I also kinda like how the lights themselves have the little bulges and 3D detail in them. Not sure how the Gen 3 lights actually look in person but the blocking of colors in the lights themselves even looks a bit off to me. Also, the body line where the light inserts is just a straight line now, no curves or angles and less pronounced indent.

Rear Appliqué - Gen 2 - Again, it took me a minute to notice this but the Gen 3 appliqué is now just straight across line on the bottom edge with no angular detail. My Gen 2 (2020) has a nice angled cutout at the bottom that just adds a little design flare to the tailgate appliqué and looks less like an afterthought slap a piece of plastic on the back.


Interior

I won't go into too much detail here, but I do love the new interior, it looks to be more polished and finished but it also looks a little less rugged and off-roadish, if that makes any sense. I like my carbon fiber shift knob and a few other details I feel the Gen 2 still has the Gen 3 interior beat on, not in terms of quality or fit/finish just design and feel to match the trucks personality. The interior just has this confused "I want to be a Lincoln Navigator but I still want to be a truck" look to me. I'm sure it will grow more on me overtime.


Steering Wheel - Damn I really want to like that new steering wheel but again, it just looks less rugged and sporty. They even removed the perforated leather on the sides and the Raptor logo just doesn't look as mean or pronounced as it does on my Gen 2 wheel. My girlfriend was actually the first to point this out...


Anyway, not even sure why I took the time to write this, just really trying to put it in writing so that I can keep my want for "new and better" in check...lol.

Good post. Nice to see an objective comparison instead of the 'manufactured' hate for the new Gen just because it makes their current gen feel dated. I am in the fortunate position of having sold my Gen 1 so I have no truck to compare to. Makes it much easier just to fall in love with Gen 3. I think I am waiting for the V8, but that long wait is going to be tough when I see other guys getting their Gen 3 later this Summer. Plus, if its North (or even at $100k), that probably sends me back the the V6 anyway.
 

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I like the look of the gen 3, the suspension appears to be top notch and what's not to like about 37" tires!! Not too found of the shifter, how am I suppose to know my GF is ***** if she can't stroke the shifter up and down? Hoping for the v8 in the R model and a scab, praying to the gods for those options, the rest of the cosmetics I can live with. Great post OP!
 

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I don't think most truck buyers base their buying decisions on the aesthetics of the vehicle. News flash: they are all kind of big, ugly, vehicles with clumsy detailing and shoddy panel gaps. They're trucks after all. I think what most pickup truck drivers in general and Raptor/TRX buyers in particular are after is machismo. They want the thing to ooze testosterone from every pore. While I agree that the Gen 3 is not a home run in the looks department, I think you need to give it a chance to be seen in the flesh before passing judgement. Especially with the 37" tire package, I think it is going to have a lot of presence.

Enough about the styling since that is the last thing anyone should bring up with respect to this vehicle. In every other way, the Gen 3 is a step change from the Gen 2. The interior is loads better (find anyone who says the new F-150 interior is not an improvement), the infotainment/connectivity is better, the new 5-link rear suspension is going to be superior in every way imaginable. That alone will be transformative to the point that it will drive like a completely different vehicle. It has finally addressed the weak payload and tow ratings in the bargain. There is a lot of hand wringing going on about the new truck and it not being "good enough", especially from Gen 2 owners who, by the way, have not driven it yet. Wait until the first few converts start trading those 2017s and 2018s in for these things and the honest owner reviews come out. Not some flowery, "everything is great" shit review to affirm their decision but real, honest feedback. The truck is going to be be worlds better.
 

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I like the look of the gen 3, the suspension appears to be top notch and what's not to like about 37" tires!! Not too found of the shifter, how am I suppose to know my GF is ***** if she can't stroke the shifter up and down? Hoping for the v8 in the R model and a scab, praying to the gods for those options, the rest of the cosmetics I can live with. Great post OP!
When she folds the new shifter down for you that might be a clue.
 

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I think once we start seeing more videos and in more colors, you guys will start to change your tunes. I personally think it looks great. Old school boxy and masculine in design.
Exactly, IMO is looks amazing! As you said, once you start seeing them in different colors out on the streets everyone is going to be changing their mind very quickly! It is a very modern and sleek and aggressive looking machine.
 
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