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<blockquote data-quote="Ox3721" data-source="post: 1794865" data-attributes="member: 53650"><p>What does your trailer weigh and what is the tongue weight?</p><p></p><p>I’ve been towing a 20’ travel trailer from the valley (Phoenix) to the AZ mountains (1,000’ to about 8,000’+) The trailer empty weighs about 4100# with a tongue weight of about 570#.</p><p></p><p>With my wife and I, a full tank of gas, a 2500W generator, camp chairs, and other miscellaneous gear loaded in the truck, we have about 800# of payload remaining (out of about 1400#) for tongue weight.</p><p></p><p>That only leaves about 230# of wiggle room for overall payload. We try to only tow with empty water tanks in the trailer, since we would easily exceed payload with a full fresh tank (55 gal/456#). And that’s before we even account for food in the fridge and other cargo in the trailer, so we’re actually probably very close to or slightly over max payload.</p><p></p><p>2021 37PP using the Andersen WD hitch.</p><p></p><p>Powertrain wise, it’s been very good. It pulls all of it up steep hills just fine and rarely revs above 3500. Don’t feel it’s lacking power at all. Even at 5,000’+ and ambient temps over 100F it’s smooth and steady. Engine and trans temps stay pretty much nominal. Going downhill, I try to bring the speed down considerably BEFORE picking up unwanted momentum to save the brakes and minimize high engine braking revs.</p><p></p><p>If your truck is struggling with power, I suspect you may be asking too much of it and/or overloaded.</p><p></p><p>From your picture, it looks like you are running non-OE tires/wheels. If still 37’s (or larger), I would guess they are quite a bit heavier and since they appear significantly wider, most likely causing a decent amount more frictional and aerodynamic drag. That won’t help your cause.</p><p></p><p>As far as mods to improve towing, I’ll reiterate, that we are very restricted in these trucks by payload and that’s not something that can be improved unless you want to talk about changing axles or spending 10’s of thousands of dollars on CF or titanium lightweight parts.</p><p></p><p>A larger front mount intercooler may help some in extreme heat, and at some point, Eibach and others should offer heavier rear coils to help with rear sag.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ox3721, post: 1794865, member: 53650"] What does your trailer weigh and what is the tongue weight? I’ve been towing a 20’ travel trailer from the valley (Phoenix) to the AZ mountains (1,000’ to about 8,000’+) The trailer empty weighs about 4100# with a tongue weight of about 570#. With my wife and I, a full tank of gas, a 2500W generator, camp chairs, and other miscellaneous gear loaded in the truck, we have about 800# of payload remaining (out of about 1400#) for tongue weight. That only leaves about 230# of wiggle room for overall payload. We try to only tow with empty water tanks in the trailer, since we would easily exceed payload with a full fresh tank (55 gal/456#). And that’s before we even account for food in the fridge and other cargo in the trailer, so we’re actually probably very close to or slightly over max payload. 2021 37PP using the Andersen WD hitch. Powertrain wise, it’s been very good. It pulls all of it up steep hills just fine and rarely revs above 3500. Don’t feel it’s lacking power at all. Even at 5,000’+ and ambient temps over 100F it’s smooth and steady. Engine and trans temps stay pretty much nominal. Going downhill, I try to bring the speed down considerably BEFORE picking up unwanted momentum to save the brakes and minimize high engine braking revs. If your truck is struggling with power, I suspect you may be asking too much of it and/or overloaded. From your picture, it looks like you are running non-OE tires/wheels. If still 37’s (or larger), I would guess they are quite a bit heavier and since they appear significantly wider, most likely causing a decent amount more frictional and aerodynamic drag. That won’t help your cause. As far as mods to improve towing, I’ll reiterate, that we are very restricted in these trucks by payload and that’s not something that can be improved unless you want to talk about changing axles or spending 10’s of thousands of dollars on CF or titanium lightweight parts. A larger front mount intercooler may help some in extreme heat, and at some point, Eibach and others should offer heavier rear coils to help with rear sag. [/QUOTE]
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