Raptor Assault without Torsen

[BryBurger]

I just hope the non-torsen move has more to do with actual improvements or equal performance and NOT just a cost cutting factor. Time will tell since I have not heard actual offroading complaints... just complaints of no Torsen. I originally ordered my rig with it until I was rolled over to a '23.

Also are current Raptor Assault trucks '23s? I plan on going in fall and curious if they may have Torsen. I def plan to grill whomever will listen there about the Ford Torsen decision.

 

[ToadSmasher2K1]

I agree, I hope it was a planned improvement and not a cost-cutting or supply chain issue.

I’m sure the 2024’s will have heated steering wheels and Torsen diff…

 

[elking]

I just hope the non-torsen move has more to do with actual improvements or equal performance and NOT just a cost cutting factor. Time will tell since I have not heard actual offroading complaints... just complaints of no Torsen. I originally ordered my rig with it until I was rolled over to a '23.

Also are current Raptor Assault trucks '23s? I plan on going in fall and curious if they may have Torsen. I def plan to grill whomever will listen there about the Ford Torsen decision.

I attended RA end of March and talked to several instructors and they had no idea what I was talking about regarding torsen deletion. I think Torsen was deleted to save money otherwise there would have been some sort of written explanation why it was deleted and what replaced it.

 

[jeanco]

Interesting, that’s opposite my experience when I did the Bronco Off Rodeo in 2021. The instructors there were Ford Performance employees. The instructor for my group actually had spent some time at Tooele. He was fantastic and knew all about off road driving. It was a great experience that I was hoping to duplicate at a Raptor Assault in the near future. Reviews of RA all seem very positive.

Same,my instructor was a professional driver hire by ford.

 

[tabvette]

When I went to the Raptor Assault back in June of 2022, the instructors said they kept the trucks for about 2 years, so what you will experience will be 2022 raptors.

 

[Oldfart]

From my personal experience back in 18' the instructors were mostly car guys who didn't actually know a whole lot about the Raptor or offroading in general. Again personal experience but I would think they probably wouldn't notice. Personally I have not noticed much of a difference in my 23' although not a whole lot of offroad miles yet.

When I was there in '20 the instructors were legit offroad racing guys.

 

[MNLeadfoot]

When I was there in '20 the instructors were legit offroad racing guys.

That's good to hear! Our instructors were super nice guys but definitely all road race car guys.

 

[sixshooter_45]

The torsen is gonna make the biggest difference on slick surfaces where all 4 tires maintain contact, think snowy and rainy roads. If a front wheel lifts the torsen will act like an open diff.

I believe that's when you can put your left foot lightly on the brake to get the other wheel to engage with the Torsen front differential.

 

[Zeusmotorworks]

I've "heard" there will be an electronic subsitute. If they are doing anything like Toyota did back when I had FJs and 4runners (ATRAC?) the wheel sensors read wheel spin, apply the brake on THAT wheel just enough, and bingo its "like" a limited slip. Wheel in the air or not does not matter. If that IS the case, it will be better for people in the rocks, maybe not as good for street driving. I don't know how far the tech has come. If they did nothing... well, insert whatever profanities you feel appropriate.

 

[sixshooter_45]

I've "heard" there will be an electronic subsitute. If they are doing anything like Toyota did back when I had FJs and 4runners (ATRAC?) the wheel sensors read wheel spin, apply the brake on THAT wheel just enough, and bingo its "like" a limited slip. Wheel in the air or not does not matter. If that IS the case, it will be better for people in the rocks, maybe not as good for street driving. I don't know how far the tech has come. If they did nothing... well, insert whatever profanities you feel appropriate.

Doesn’t the torsen front differential work the same way?

Left foot applying enough brake pressure to force engagement of the tire not spinning whether or not one of the tires is on the ground.

At least that's my understanding from watching YouTube channel explaining it whilst demonstrating it.