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More Ecoboost Ford Raptor evidence for 2013?

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  1. Rakimb17

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    This is a dyno chart from a random tuning shop. However a vendor on this forum has put out similar numbers with EB. This run is with stock turbos, full exhaust, bigger inter-cooler and tune. All standard stuff for turbo guys. I will say that I though the HP was a lot lower than I expected, but when you're putting 500 torque to the ground... I can live with it. And this is MUCH cheaper than a $10,000 supercharger. There are a ton more power mods that could be done as well.
    Meth injection, port the turbos, or bigger turbos, sooner or later a cam kit will come out. Endless possibilities.
     

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    you're getting sucked in by the word turbo....and i can assure you 1000lbs makes a big difference on anything
    the 6.2 is naked, nothing, bare. if building an engine is your fantasy, why start with a 3.5? You're handicapping yourself. The 6.2 is putting out similar numbers without anything.

    So you're still selling me a smaller engine, that costs more, then you're telling me I need to get a bigger exhaust, bigger inter-cooler, and tune?

    You're not selling this very well.....as a matter of fact, you're sounding more like an import guy
    I'm still trying to find a twin turbo 4cyl/6cyl Mustang or Corvette?????

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    This is my exact point....My point proven, and you still don't want to see or hear the results.
    All your arguments today are null and void

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  3. skyscraper

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    What kind of gas mileage would an ecoboost raptor get? 2 mpg better than the 6.2? Probably
     
  4. Rakimb17

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    Seriously, my argument is null and void because some guy running 87 octane in a ecoboost still beat a 6.2 that had cutouts? Next you're gonna tell me that the easter bunny is real too.
    Show me your dyno numbers and then you can talk about something. I gave gave you proof the an EB can put down 500+ torque with simple mods.
    You argument is pretty much a bigger engine is better because its bigger. And its bigger because its better.

    Is the EB more expensive? If you order one from your parts guy, YES. (Because its better)
    But we have no idea if Ford would charge a premium for it or how much it would be. So that argument is a wash.
    EBs can make roush power for a quarter of the price of a roush kit. (Not including install) That's my argument. I dont care about mpg, weight difference, color, or anything else. Even if the EB is 2000 more as an option, I'd probably get it. Because I can get it up to 500ft lbs to the ground.
     
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    And you think you can't get 500 to the ground with the 6.2? It's done that and better naturally aspirated, let alone forced induction, again, when it comes to building an engine, if you start with an ecoboost, you are limiting yourself, to turbocharged, less cylinders, lower displacement, there literally is no replacement for displacement, you can add turbos to both a 6.2L and a 3.5L, you can't add 2.7L to a 3.5L, forced induction is a leech on the performance society, nobody cares about optimizing an engine anymore, they can just turn a knob, flip a switch, turn a dial, or swap a pulley and make more power, why should they try to optimize the flow through their intake or their cam timing and lift, now the people who used to do those things don't even do it and it will be lost forever within the next generation, all because people like hearing their little turbo spool, it gets their little penis up
     
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    You sound like you should be driving a Chevy. You really think it's easier to tune a turbo? It's not. Just looks easier because only smart people do it.

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    Agreed after same tires, lift and gears.


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    I didn't say it was easier to tune a forced induction engine, it's easier to build one, I know from watching many people do it, throw more boost at the motor then tune it to compensate and you make more power, you can't just throw boost at an n/a motor, you have to build it and then you have to work just as hard to tune it to make optimum power, I've worked with people who make power for a living, they admit it all the time, why should they want to buy and build when they can just crank up the boost and make more power
     
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    That's all I'm saying. If the eb is a reasonable price. It's a lot cheaper to make big power.

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    Cheaper isn't better very often, and more power doesn't mean faster, a friend has a 900 HP turbo integra, he has been beaten by (and admits it as a lesson to others) a n/a 600 HP integra that weighed about 200 lbs more than his, what you make under the peak is far more important than what you make at it
     
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